The End of Oz Stoners?

[Pure]

I used to associate with some of the originating Astalavista members who where who gave the place it's rep and have long since left for better prospects. And most of thier "guides"are recyled data with new info put in , half of it simply dun work and it outdated . which is why I mentioned windows 98 , cause the truth of it is that most of there "good " guides are now well and truely outdated , just look at some of the old stuff and compair it to the new you will see that despite patches beign released or services being disabled the guides are very similar to the old ones , basicly cause someone has just updated it with the correct wording without creing if it works or not

 

Your right I didn't read your links because simply put I don't need to be told by someone if there are default backdoors in microsofts software , it's a blackhat myth dude and one that clearly has gone over your head.

 

I think this could be settled easly enough for members with xp to try your default password and see what happens personaly i have tried it to ammuse you on a few vm's done from retail , oem and action pack installs and no luck on your "default password"

 

If dell put something on your system thats not microsofts fault and personaly I would be talkign it up woith dell because as The standard as far as microsoft are concerned is that there is no need for a backdoor default password if an administrator , police , IT service people need to reset a password they can do so other ways , without opening up holes in their system.

 

Thinkabout what your acusing them of , do you really think that if this backdoor existed that microsoft would still be in operation or do you think it wouldn't be world news ? The truth of it is billion dollar companies would rip them a new hole in court for breaches of privacy and thats only the tip of the iceburg.

 

No one is saying a password can't be cracked cause depending on the strenghth and algorithm it canbe quite an easy or quite a difficult task , and if we are talking people like cops they are simply going to blow the password away all together and not bother tryign to crack it.

 

The reason I wanted to keep my replys in here breif was not to cop out it's simply not what the thread is about we started on censorship and have moved into microsoft vulnerabilities

[Indycar]

Anyway's, my piss poor attempt to get back on topic.

 

This bloke has got to rate highly in the Rant of the Year awards. Rambles on a bit, but seems to cut through the bullshit 'n seems to spell it out in layman's terms on how to properly act on it.

 

YouTube Video: How to fight internet censorship in Australia

 

[Pure]

Thanx for the link indy

 

As far as the sites plans when things like this happen , we would rather keep it under our hat for now but be confident that no upstream provided filter will effect your experiance here. There are allot of ways to get around these filters.

 

I still think it will be a little while for filters to be agreed apon and even longer for the isp's to implement them. You have to consider that the ISP's have more to loose finacially over this than anyone . 80% of the people on their high usage plans simply wouldn'tu need a huge download limit if they where not pulling down movies or tv shows ect.

They have always been the biggest protestors for filtering in the past and we have to hope to continue to recive that help because as soon as they give in we are all going to be filtered and I am sure ISP's will justify a price hike because of it not to mention all the ones that will go out of business without the bulk of their large usage clients

[odin]

This is so ridiculous. I'm embarrassed to be Australian.

[lightning]

Just got a reply from Conroy's office to the email I sent him re filtering system challenging him to prove it works by getting rid of viagra spam

 

The reply is a form letter in pdf format

 

Internet filtering

Thank you for your correspondence concerning internet service provider (ISP) filtering.

I appreciate your interest in this important issue.

I am aware that the issue of ISP filtering has attracted criticism from people who are concerned that it will lead to censorship of the internet.

Freedom of speech is fundamentally important in a democratic society. For many years however, most Australians have accepted that there is some material which is not acceptable, particularly for children.

The genesis of this is in civil society where social conflict is governed by the imposition of rules that restrain citizens from harming one another and society as a whole accepts that the public interest requires that those rules are enforced.

This is why we have the National Classification Scheme (the Scheme) for classifying films, computer games, and publications. Under the Scheme, it is illegal to distribute, sell or make available for hire material that is classified Refused Classification (RC).

The internet is already subject to regulation which prevents ISPs or other internet content providers from hosting prohibited content as defined under the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 within Australia. Prohibited content is determined by reference to the Scheme.

We also have strong criminal laws aimed at preventing people from possessing or distributing material relating to child sexual abuse, including over the internet.

The Australian Government recognises that the internet is an essential tool for all Australian children through which they can exchange information, be entertained, socialise and do school work and research. The ability to use online tools effectively provides both a skill for life and the means to acquire new skills.

Cyber-safety commitment

The Government has committed $125.8 million over the next four years to a comprehensive range of cyber-safety measures, including law enforcement, filtering and education. Measures include:

• Expansion of the Australian Federal Police (AFP) Child Protection Operations Team - funding to detect and investigate online child sex exploitation;

• Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions - funding to help deal with the increased activity resulting from the work of the AFP to ensure that prosecutions are handled quickly;

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• ISP-level filtering - funding to develop and implement ISP filtering, including undertaking a real world ‘live’ pilot;

• Education activities - funding to the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to implement a comprehensive range of education activities;

• Websites / Online helpline - funding to ACMA to improve current government cyber-safety website resources and to make them easier for parents to use, and to provide up-to-date information. ACMA will also develop a children’s cyber-safety website to provide information specifically for children, and improve the online helpline to provide a quick and easy way for children to report online incidents that cause them concern;

• Consultative Working Group - funding for an expanded Consultative Working Group. This group will consider the broad range of cyber-safety issues and advise the Government, to ensure properly developed and targeted policy initiatives;

• Youth Advisory Group - funding for a Youth Advisory Group which will provide advice to the Consultative Working Group on cyber-safety issues from a young person’s perspective; and

• Research - funding for ongoing research into the changing digital environment to identify issues and target future policy and funding.

International cooperation in regard to online safety is crucial. The Government is pursuing an international agenda for collaborative action on cyber-safety. Progress on this was made through my recent engagement at the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) forum in Seoul in June 2008. The Seoul Declaration for the Future of the Internet Economy states that participating economies agree to ‘Ensure a trusted Internet-based environment which offers protection to individuals, especially minors and other vulnerable groups’.

Education

The above initiatives will tackle the issue of cyber-safety from a number of directions. More importantly, this approach is based on the key role parents and carers have in the online safety of children, and provides them with the necessary information to assist with this task.

In particular, ACMA’s Outreach program has been expanded to provide additional general cyber-safety awareness presentations to teachers, parents and students which highlight the key issues and strategies to minimise potential online risks. The program will also include professional development on online safety issues for existing and trainee school teachers.

ISP filtering

A part of the Government’s plan is to examine the introduction of ISP-level filtering.

The Government’s policy will be developed through an informed and considered approach, including industry consultation and close examination of overseas models to assess their suitability for Australia.

Filtering technologies have been adopted by ISPs in a number of countries including the United Kingdom, Sweden, Norway and Finland, predominantly to filter child pornography. In these countries ISP filtering has not affected internet performance to a noticeable level.

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Laboratory trial and live pilot

ACMA has completed a laboratory trial of a sample of the available ISP filtering technologies. The trial looked specifically at the effect of a range of filter products on network performance, effectiveness in identifying and blocking illegal content, scope to filter non-web traffic and the ability to customise the filter to the requirements of different end-users.

The laboratory trial indicated that ISP filtering products have developed in their performance and effectiveness since they were last assessed in 2005. The Government is now proceeding with a ‘live’ pilot which will provide valuable information on the effectiveness and efficiency of filters installed in a ‘real world’ ISP network. The live pilot is proceeding in close consultation with the internet industry.

The Government is committed to working closely with the internet industry to address the concerns of network degradation, over and under blocking, circumvention and costs.

These concerns will be carefully considered during the pilot and will further inform the Government’s cyber-safety policy.

The Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (the Department) has prepared material on a list of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) regarding ISP filtering. This list is available on the Department’s website at www.dbcde.gov.au/cybersafetyplan.

These FAQs will be updated regularly to provide you with the most up to date information on ISP filtering issues.

ACMA Blacklist

The existing ACMA blacklist is a list of internet web pages which are defined as ‘prohibited’ under Australian legislation. The list has been in place since 2000 and currently contains around 1300 URLs.

ACMA has also negotiated agreement with the UK Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) facilitating access to the IWF’s list of child abuse image URLs.

ACMA is also working with the Australian Federal Police to arrange access to the USA National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children list of child abuse image websites.

In consultations with ISPs, concerns have been raised that filtering a blacklist beyond

10 000 URLs may raise network performance issues, depending on the configuration of the filter. The pilot will therefore seek to also test network performance against a test list of

10 000 URLs.

This will be a closed network test and will not involve actual customers. The list of 10 000 sites will be developed by the technical organisation assisting the Department on the pilot, which has access to lists of this size. As this test is only being performed to test the impact on network performance against a list of this size, and actual customers are not involved, the make-up of the list is not an issue.

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The ACMA blacklist is developed by complaints by the public about online content to the ACMA hotline. ACMA does not arbitrarily assess and classify content. Online content is assessed in accordance with the National Classification Scheme. The Scheme was established by the Classification (Publications, Films and Computer Games) Act 1995. Content which is the subject of a complaint is assessed by ACMA and in some instances referred to the National Classification Board for classification.

The ACMA complaints process has been established by the Australian Parliament through the Broadcasting Services Act 1992. If content is found to be prohibited and is hosted in Australia (i.e. located on a computer or server in Australia), ACMA will direct the content provider to remove or prevent access to the content. If content is found to be prohibited and is hosted overseas, ACMA must add the material to its blacklist.

ACMA officers and Classification Board members applying the Scheme are highly trained and apply criteria set out in the Scheme’s legislative framework. Further, decisions made by the Classification Board can be reviewed by the Classification Review Board.

The scope of the definition of prohibited content in legislation cannot be expanded without changes to legislation being passed by Parliament.

Thank you for your interest in this matter. I hope this information will be of use.

Yours sincerely

Stephen Conroy

Minister for Broadband,

Communications and the Digital Economy

 

Nothing at all about my suggested test to prove the filter works

 

RC REFUSED CLASSIFICATION

Publications which contain elements which exceed those set out in the above classification

categories are classified ‘RC’.

Publications which fall within the criteria for ‘RC’ classification cannot be legally imported

or sold in Australia.

 

The National Classification Code sets out the criteria for classifying a publication ‘RC’.

These include publications that:

• describe, depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or

addiction, crime, cruelty, violence or revolting or abhorrent phenomena in such a

way that they offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety

generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that they should not be

classified; or

• describe or depict in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult, a

person who is or appears to be, a child under 18 (whether the person is engaged

in sexual activity or not), or;

• promote, incite or instruct in matters of crime or violence.

So every thing they describe there WILL be in the filter

[Frazz]

Yea lightning i just got the same reply to my emails to stephen gobbels .. err conroy ... its just polly waffle

 

[lightning]

yeah Frazzle maybe they need to shove their polly wafle up their.....

and stay out of everyones business

 

Australia wide caching proxy servers that simply tracks what sites are visited by what client address so when a site is identified as kiddyporn etc a warrant is granted to run that address through the cache and see who visited and prosecute accordingly. Quite simply really and nothing gets "filtered" and nothing gets slowed down but rockspiders terrorists etc. are easily found and dealt with.

Or is that just too logical to get up as an alternative idea to censorship?

[Dragonfan]

'Save The Net' Campaign Sweeps Internet

 

Dec 5 2008

By ninemsn staff

 

Web-based lobby group GetUp! is set to launch an innovative but invasive ad campaign to attract more supporters for an online petition slamming the federal government's internet censorship plans.

 

In a chain reaction style concept to hit websites next week, the online ad calls for users to make a donation to the 'Save the Net' campaign.

 

The donation will directly fund more ads to entice more Australians to add their names to the petition, which slams the government's internet restriction plans as "draconian".

 

"Your $50 will show 4000 people this ad, $100 will buy 10,000 views," the ad says.

 

"Thanks for chipping in to defend our digital economy and democratic freedoms."

 

GetUp! spokesperson Ed Coper told ninemsn the campaign would target news websites and technical websites that "high numbers of users would be going to" but denied the method of advertising was invasive.

 

"[GetUp!] has a strong history showing Australians are willing to donate to be able to get their message out there in a conventional form," he said.

 

The campaign also allows website administrators to embed their websites with the ad so viewers do not need to leave the site to sign up.

 

The petition has already received 77,000 recipients since it was launched last week.

 

Getup! claims the government's move will slow the internet by up to 87 percent, making it more expensive while failing to deter cyber criminals.

 

The advocacy group's national director Simon Sheikh said criminal activity cannot be stopped through the internet filter the government is proposing.

 

"The Government's net censorship plans will do little more than slog Aussie families and businesses with slower internet speeds and higher internet bills without making a significant dent in criminal activity," he said.

 

"Criminals use peer-to-peer software to distribute illegal content which is highly encrypted and impossible to detect under their proposed plan."

 

Instead, GetUp! has called for free PC-based filtering to all Australian families, claiming it would allow parents to track and monitor their child's access to the Internet, cost less and not impact the speed of the internet.

 

"GetUp! would like to see the Government better arm parents to combat illegal and unwanted content by funding a scheme for free PC-based filtering software for all Australian families," Mr Sheikh said.

 

The organisation has previously launched highly publicised campaigns including an anti FuelWatch ad calling for "real solutions to rising petrol prices" and a spoof ad criticising the Howard government's Climate Clever campaign.

 

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy last month urged internet service providers (ISP) and mobile telephone operators to participate in a live trial of the government's proposed internet filtering system.

 

The government called for expressions of interest from industry to take part in the ISP-level filtering trial, to start on December 24

[Gnobong]

Do the christians realise that online bibles would be filtered by the proposed filters because of underage sex and violence in the bible.

[lightning]

gnobong, if you read what conrod wrote you will find that they are not filtering on words but on specific sites that will be in the blacklist. So they pick and choose what gets stopped by site, so only their propaganda gets through and anything they don't like gets filtered.

 

They were never going to leave that to chance. despots are control freaks of the highest magnitude.

Fortunately most despots are also morons who are so stupid they don't even realize how much they DON'T KNOW.

 

Bottom line is that a filtering proxy server with 10,000+ lines in the filter will slow internet access hugely,

The processing required to sort individual packets decode them and decide if they fit the criteria of the filter before handing them on to the client pc is staggering when you multiply it by the total number of users of the large ISPs. It will literally require server farms to prevent total degradation of performance of the network and that is totally cost prohibitive without pushing the costs through to users.

So we will get to pay for the privilege of having our freedoms stomped on and get less performance for more cost.

 

So much for the broadband network, build a high speed network so we can have dial up speeds FFS