The End of Oz Stoners?

[Gnobong]

I thought they were using isp level word filtering also (optional ?or partially)? Maybe I'm wrong.

 

gnoBong

[lightning]

From what the "official Statement" says it is a defined blacklist of sites probably because the word filter would also filter their antidrug sites govt departments and medical research institutes and most media outlets etc.

But the list is kept SECRET so they can nail any site they consider "undesirable content" and we are not even told that it has been done, true tyranny at work.

 

So what happened to "transparent government" and rule by the people, you know, DEMOCRACY.

Lenin and Marx would be proud of the Australian Parliament.

 

Time has come to stand up against this dictatorship, I for one will be going to the rally on 13 dec.

 

The only reasonable response to tyranny in a civilised society is rebellion. Peaceful rebellion in the model of Ghandi is preferred, public disobedience in numbers to great to ignore will usually bring most tyrants to heal.

If they choose to get nasty about public protest and take off the gloves then on their heads be it, literally.

 

The Constitution says that the Government is there to make laws for the peace, order and good government of Australia.

Declaring war and raising arms against the people and encouraging disorder/crime in the streets just does not seem to fit properly with that now does it.

[Indycar]

ISP filtering a pipe dream: Telstra

 

Fran Foo | December 05, 2008

 

TELSTRA chief operating officer Greg Winn says the federal Government's attempt to censor the internet is akin to trying to "boil the ocean".

 

"My view on that is that's like trying to boil the ocean ... to think that you're going to be able to centrally filter everything, I think that's a pipe dream," Mr Winn told reporters and analysts yesterday.

 

Child protection agencies have welcomed the Government's move to filter the internet but civil libetarians, ISPs and the technical community have rallied against it for various reasons.

 

The Government plans to have two streams of filtered content.

 

The mandatory portion will adhere to a blacklist of thousands of illegal web pages managed by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) and an optional clean feed of URLs that would automatically censor content, mostly adult material.

 

Mr Winn agreed with broad comments from the ISP community that internet filtering would make surfing the web a slower process.

 

"The one thing I do know is that once you start filtering, then you're going to add latency no matter what," he said.

 

The Government has invited ISPs and mobile phone providers to participate in a live internet filtering trial, releasing details of its long-awaited call for expressions of interest (EOI) on November 10.

 

ACMA has completed closed lab trials of ISP content filtering conducted by Enex TestLab. The live pilot, however, is the first step towards evaluating whether content filtering at a network provider level is feasible in Australia.

 

The trial will test against ACMA's blacklist that currently contains 1300 URLs and may expand to approximately 10,000 links.

 

The list mainly contains web pages of child sexual abuse web sites.

 

The deadline for the EOI is next Monday and the Government would like the trial to kick-off by December 24.

 

The nation's largest telecommunications provider, Telstra, still hasn't decided if it plans to play ball.

 

Meanwhile, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy came under fire this week for failing to reveal details of the trial.

 

During question time on Wednesday Senator Conroy was asked how many participants would ISPs have to enlist for the live trials to be credible.

 

South Australian Liberal MP Cory Bernardi also asked if the results of the trials would be independently verified.

 

Senator Conroy couldn't provide answers to both questions within the two-minute timeframe provided.

 

At this rate, it'll fall over before it gets to the Senate..

[daytrippa]

and so it should indycar!! I know just enough about computers to get by, and even I can see this wont be functional, besides, WE ARE NOT COMMUNIST CHINA so why are we letting them even suggest something that will obviously be used as a censorship tool?

[jaikai]

Been reading the paper and stuff... This net filter is an absolute joke... It`d even be funny if it were`nt for the clowns trying to get it through... A mate, who aint too cluey asked; "If it`s to block out kiddie porn, they must know where the kiddie porn is. How can they block it otherwise?" That`s a fair question really... Blocking by site... What site?, How did it get on the list? Who told you about it so you can take action against it?

 

So many simple reasons to reassess the thinking about this... Must be the same advisors who wanna build a Desalination plant...

 

This shit makes my head hurt after a while... pity it aint genuinely funny.

 

I`m on the anti petition, 3 so far...

 

JAIKAI

[Wayne Smith]

This is certainly worrying. Your site has been running a long time. I'd hate to see it go belly up. I've discovered I'm rather lousy at running forums myself. My LNP forum was never going to draw a huge crowd but its decidedly dead looking now. No point in letting some good domain names go to waste though. The political domains in particular might be helpful.

http://www.liberalnationalparty.com

 

I've got it redirecting through a chain of others to help boost them up a little but ultimately it goes here.

 

Thanks for keeping this site going for so long.

[brick]

Email from Get Up

 

 

With Telstra's refusal to participate in filter trials leaving the Government's internet censorship plan "in shreds",1 there's never been a more important time to tell the Government we want greater protection of our freedoms - both online and offline.

 

The fight against this internet censorship plan should serve to remind us these freedoms - of speech, expression, information and privacy - need our constant defence. It may sound incredible, but Australia is the only democratic country without formal human rights protections.

[Nooby]

Yeah it could be a good thing or a bad thing, a bill or rights that is, depends who writes it up and all. Let's hope they're right about the ISP filter.

 

P.S. You know it's a REALLY crappy idea when even the conservative pollies are against it.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology...8585100603.html

 

Please shoot him an email of thanks for his position in standing against the lunacy. ;-)

Edited December 12, 2008 by Nooby

[humphrey b flaubert]

As others have said, it's going to be a total piece of piss to get around for anyone with even a basic level of computer skills.

The sad thing is if it does come in it just shows that this country is not a democracy, the majority of people don't want it, the ISPs don't want it, any technical expert with any creditability has told the Government it won't work.

Why are they going ahead with it? That born again weirdo Kevin Rudd and his Jesus freak cronies (like Peter Garrett) desperately trying to pretend any viewpoint that does not agree with theirs does not exist.

I've meet some people who were in the press following his election campaign and they had some great stories about what a unlikeable freak he is.

I would like to add here that I've meet some lovely Christians who loathed what they called "happy clappies" (born again intolerant freaks) more than anyone else as they gave all Christians a bad name

[Dragonfan]

Ninemsn

24 December 2008

 

The federal government has distanced itself from a report that found internet censorship technology under consideration is seriously flawed.

 

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy says the Internet Industry Association (IIA) report was commissioned and paid for by the former Howard government.

 

It was "not an analysis of the ALP's policy", he said.

 

The report concluded schemes to block inappropriate content - such as child pornography - could slow the internet and result in over and under-blocking of material.

 

Senator Conroy denied Labor was trialling the technology in spite of the report's negative findings.

 

"The government is aware of technical concerns raised in the report, and that is why we are conducting a pilot, to put these claims to the test," Senator Conroy said in a statement.

 

"The live pilot trial will provide evidence on the real world impacts of content filtering, including for providers and internet users.

 

"It will provide an invaluable opportunity for internet service providers to inform the government's approach."

 

The trial is due to begin in mid-January.

 

Senator Conroy said the IIA report simply involved reviewing existing literature and interviews and surveys.

 

"It involved no empirical testing of filtering technology."

 

© AAP 2008

 

 

What a complete bollocks! It truly beggars belief!