Pharma set to loose if cannabis is legalised

[cardrona]

Cannabis is a plant ...a herb if used.... it can be abused .....but education plays a big roll.

 

I can abuse many legal things.....just like business and governments abuse people everyday......but it doesnt have to be that way.

Edited June 22, 2017 by cardrona

[Jim420]

What good does it do illegal ?

I am not saying sell heroin on the st........but dont lock people up treat them .

Go after the crooks and stop the black market

I agree . Addicts need help not further punishment.. In most cases I think they've suffered enough and that suffering probably started way before they were addicts ..

 

As for buying coke , eckies, ice , heroin over the counter like booze ! That shits insane and unlike weed , they're highly addictive ( well maybe not E's ) but the other 3 mentioned 100%.. personally , I don't want the availability to be there for people .. especially because some people have highly addictive personalities . The reason a lot of people don't do these drugs is because they have no idea where to get them and that's a good thing .

 

As for taxing them shits as hydro suggested, that money wouldn't cover the cost of rehabilitation .. it's a lose lose situation .

 

I'm not trying to start shit , I'm not trying to troll .. I'm simply stating my opinion .

 

One of my best mates died from a heroin overdose .. him not being here breaks my heart everyday .. what the government needs to do is have more injecting rooms where people can be supervised and not OD. Cos if Melbourne had more of those , maybe my mate would have gone in there and not died on the street like a dog ..

 

Being able to get it over the counter would get rid of the black market but it would create a whole new bunch of problems . Worse problems !

 

As for weed , I actually believe legalising it would drop the numbers of people using it . It wouldn't be cool anymore ..

 

Oh , as for pills .. I think every club , chemist , bar pub should have little vending machines with testing kits .. they're gonna do that shit regardless , so why not take a mature and responsible approach ..

Edited June 22, 2017 by Jim420

[cardrona]

I agree .......treat them not promote it .

But it is like any business supply and demand ....if you can treat the people so they dont buy it with morphine etc then the demand dries up crooks will move onto something else. 

 

In Canada here is this question posed?

 

 

Can the government accomplish its goal of eliminating the black market in this drug? The short answer is probably, but it will not happen immediately, and there are several policy decisions that might jeopardize this goal. First, based on lessons learned from Washington State, we should not set a price that is significantly higher than current black-market prices. Second, we may not have enough product to meet initial consumer demand. Again, this may be a short-term problem, arising from not having a sufficient number of licenced producers.

Third (and this is likely to be a major point of discussion as the provinces and municipalities grapple with this legislation), what will happen to dispensaries? They were recommended by the recent government task force as a retail option, in preference to liquor stores. But they are currently selling product that does not come from licenced producers. Can and will that change? If not, the goal of eliminating the black market will be in jeopardy. Dispensaries will also need to put measures in place to ensure that youth do not have access, which is something that liquor stores already do quite well.

The legislation keeps alive the recommendation of the task force that adults be able to grow up to four plants, with oversight by local authorities. This proposal has a number of potential pitfalls. Do municipalities want to oversee what may potentially be tens of thousands of applications to grow marijuana at home? What of apartment buildings and the intrusive odours? What if the home grower wants to use metal halide lights? Who will oversee the safety of installations? At least initially, a better approach might be one of only permitting four plants grown outdoors. Difficult for those in Iqaluit, but they will have mail order.

Finally, as expected, the government has kept its promise to keep the possession offence intact until the day legalization arrives. It’s difficult to support this approach. Part of the logic of legalization is a message to users – we don’t think you deserve to be regarded as criminals, subject to arrest, conviction and the possibility of imprisonment. Why not make that commitment now? It’s the most tentative step the government could have taken, and we have no evidence from other jurisdictions that use increases when that change is made.

[cardrona]

Prague is well has 

 

http://www.prague-guide.co.uk/czech-drug-laws/

Edited June 22, 2017 by cardrona

[cardrona]

Link thieves

[cardrona]

What drugs are legal in Prague?

Five plants of hemp or 15.0 grams of marijuana, 40 pieces of magic mushrooms, 5.0 grams of hashish, five LCD-laced papers or other materials with LSD, 1.5 grams of heroin, 1.0 gram of cocaine, and 2.0 grams of methamphetamine.Nov 29, 2015

[hydrochronic]

I agree . Addicts need help not further punishment.. In most cases I think they've suffered enough and that suffering probably started way before they were addicts ..

 

As for buying coke , eckies, ice , heroin over the counter like booze ! That shits insane and unlike weed , they're highly addictive ( well maybe not E's ) but the other 3 mentioned 100%.. personally , I don't want the availability to be there for people .. especially because some people have highly addictive personalities . The reason a lot of people don't do these drugs is because they have no idea where to get them and that's a good thing .

 

As for taxing them shits as hydro suggested, that money wouldn't cover the cost of rehabilitation .. it's a lose lose situation .

 

I'm not trying to start shit , I'm not trying to troll .. I'm simply stating my opinion .

 

One of my best mates died from a heroin overdose .. him not being here breaks my heart everyday .. what the government needs to do is have more injecting rooms where people can be supervised and not OD. Cos if Melbourne had more of those , maybe my mate would have gone in there and not died on the street like a dog ..

 

Being able to get it over the counter would get rid of the black market but it would create a whole new bunch of problems . Worse problems !

 

As for weed , I actually believe legalising it would drop the numbers of people using it . It wouldn't be cool anymore ..

 

Oh , as for pills .. I think every club , chemist , bar pub should have little vending machines with testing kits .. they're gonna do that shit regardless , so why not take a mature and responsible approach ..

 

I get where you're coming from, I don't want to encourage anyone to use hard drugs, but the fact is people are going to do it anyway. I just want to make it as safe as possible for people (within reason) by making it available legally, even if controlled in some way, rather than keeping people in the shadows or sending them to jail. I'm against most kinds of drugs personally, but it seems to be prohibition doesn't work and we should try education and treatment instead. I read somewhere Colorado made over 150 million in taxation from over the counter cannabis sales alone, that money would go a long way towards better drug education and less propoganda and misinformation. I'm not suggesting over the counter sales like alcohol, but maybe through some other regulated or controllable method.

 

One step at a time though, lets get cannabis through the door first, then maybe we can work on mushrooms, LSD and DMT.

Edited June 22, 2017 by hydrochronic

[GREENQUEEN]

I agree the current system simply doesn't work and I'm damm sure the police department would better off out utilizing there time and money catching real criminals instead of blocking up the court systems and jails with non priority cases like possession of marijuana or cultivation,the current laws are around cannabis are just crazy and not worthy of our modern society, free the herb and start getting the real crims of the street

 

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[Jim420]

Legalising weed would pump money into the economy and let popo [emoji61] concentrate on other shit for sure .. the current system isn't working and it's a horrible cycle that goes nowhere quick .. I agree that we need a change and I honestly think legalising weeds the first step in making this change .. we need to educate not discriminate .. I have hope .. Pharma sure as shit doesn't want this to happen . There are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake .. unfortunately in this world , money talks and bullshit walks, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see .. [emoji885]

[cardrona]

That is all my aim is.... not the harder drugs.... but decriminalisation and legalisation is a way forward ....

The No1 people against it in the US is Pharma ,the alcohol industry ,tobacco and private prisons they all have been caught funding politics to keep it illegal it is in there interest to keep it illegal ....not because of public health and safety but because of profit

Edited June 22, 2017 by cardrona