Monster Cropping! Does it work?

[bufo marinus]

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Edited March 10, 2013 by bufo marinus

[meddle]

old ways vs new ways?? at the end of the day do whatever gets you the best buds. ....... The world don't move to the beat of just one drum,

What might be right for you, may not be right for some

[MongyMan]

......sorry to be the person to break it to all the old school growers but a little tweak her and there can achieve

better results........ the old if its broken  then dont fix it.... type thinking is OLD SCHOOL AND OVER..................................

 

How's this got anything to do with old school v's noob school? Other than someone giving a wanky new name to revegging plants.

 

There is nothing new about the technique at all. A new name doesn't suddenly make it work well either

 

for those that have no idea of when monster cropping was created for in the first place... it is used to create a mother plant tou can take many many clones of as aposed to take 10 - 20 of a normal mum............

 

and this plant is a monster cropped plant... you telling me this yielded flufy arse sativa buds mongy ?

 

Nothing wrong with good sativa buds

 

"fluffy reveg buds" I said "It's faster to just start new seeds or run mums in reality."  I stand by what I said.

 

Your pics only help proove it. Those plants are still stuck mid reveg.

 

Because most try to avoid growing fluffy reveg buds which is all you get if you dont let them fully reveg. It's faster to just start new seeds or run mums in reality.

 

MongyMan.

 

 

Plenty of better ways to create branchier plants then revegging. Stuff that for a joke.

 

Gotta love OS for putting bullshit like this to rest

 +1

[-RiverRat-]

While OZstoners was Offline i did some research and found the the origin if it's "invention" and youl never guess

 

Quote from shroomy shroom (icmag)

 

Monster Cropping


Monster Cropping or Flowering Clones is another method of growing that was brought to my attention by one of our members; JWP, who also was kind enough to provide the pictures for this part of the guide. This method involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.


Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.

You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also takes clones at a later stage with the same results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use. Personally, I have found that using a small hydroponic setup or a propagation bubbler is by far the best way to clone cannabis plants. I will not expand on the subject of cloning here, if you need more information on how to clone your plants, have a look at the official cloning thread by JJScorpio

In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost flower alone.

It will take several weeks for the clone to root, some never do, so it is best that you take a great number of clones at the same time in order to ensure that at least one makes it on to the next stage. It might be a good idea to place the clones inside a humidity dome, which can be bought at gardening stores or custom built for your specific needs. The high humidity inside the dome will make sure that the plants do not dry out and die. Ventilate the dome every day just to make sure that the plants don't get attacked by mold.


Keep in mind however that the most important thing when it comes to cloning is to provide the fresh cuttings with plenty of oxygen and that is why the propagation bubbler is so effective compared to other methods. 

The clones might be a sad sight at first but as soon as they root, they will also revert back into the vegetative stage and start growing again. Once the clones have rooted properly and started growing again, they will put out single unserrated leaves at first but the normal leafs are soon to follow. It might be a good idea to apply some training at this stage, tying down some of the tops will encourage even more branching. You can also provide some heat underneath the clones as this will speed up the rooting process considerably.



When the plant starts growing again, the incredible branching power of the flowering clone becomes apparent.

As you can see, this plant has grown into a real monster, and all this without ever topping the plant. That's the beauty of this technique; you can forget all about topping and FIM'ing since the flowering clone will sprout all these new branches all by itself.

This plant is now perfectly suited for a SCROG or perhaps even a SOG grow. This one plant can easily fill up an entire Scrog net in no time. Several of these plants grown in SOG will definitely give you a grand harvest.

There are other benefits from using this technique; it also removes the need for keeping mother plants. When the newly re-vegged plant is flowered, it can also provide more clones for a perpetual harvest. Recycling at its best. This might be of interest to those who need to keep down their number of plants.

Needless to say, this method is highly effective thanks to the heavy branching that occurs after a flowering clone is re-vegged. With further training and some patience, you will get some real monster plants and thereby also a monster harvest."

 

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At least we know where it started

 

 

 

[shroomyshroom]

what ever you guys need to say to sleep at night i guess... you stand by what you said and so do I.... so at the end of the day we agree to disagree....

 

Im not someone that feels the need to defend what i have said on here or ICMAG..

 

Im done with this debate.... seriously you have nothing better to do than bag the way other people grow... shit just cause it didn't work for you does not mean it will not work for me or anyone else...

 

no offense intended but this is getting old

[MongyMan]

Im done with this debate.... seriously you have nothing better to do than bag the way other people grow...

 

Is disagreeing with you bagging you? Didn't know whatever you posted was gospel and not to be questioned

 

Reveging plants (or monster cropping if you want to rename it) has many good uses but this isn't one of them imo.

 

MongyMan

[shroomyshroom]

Is disagreeing with you bagging you? Didn't know whatever you posted was gospel and not to be questioned

 

Reveging plants (or monster cropping if you want to rename it) has many good uses but this isn't one of them imo.

 

MongyMan

fair enough

[-RiverRat-]

How is that you stand by "monstercropping" ?

 

What tests have you run personally?

 

How many plants have you  revegged throughout your growing time?

 

Have you ever tipped a plant ?

 

Who is JWP and what are his horticulture credentials and does he grow in pc cases?

 

Did you create "monstercropping" on a whim to boost your ego and now regret it ?

 

Thanks -RR-

[shroomyshroom]

How is that you stand by "monstercropping" ?

 

What tests have you run personally?

 

How many plants have you  revegged throughout your growing time?

 

Have you ever tipped a plant ?

 

Who is JWP and what are his horticulture credentials and does he grow in pc cases?

 

Did you create "monstercropping" on a whim to boost your ego and now regret it ?

 

Thanks -RR-

nah im just like you RAT i moved some where and all of a sudden my magic PGR'd plants all turned to shit....  you know like all of a sudden when you were not growing for a market,,, and decided to grow for your self... your plants look like absolute shit.......

[The Bush Administration]

I'm real glad i came across this thread.

Never heard of mcing before, although i have done reveging. From what i can tell mcing is just reveging in clone form. So, technically, yes it is just reveging. Reveged plants do make nice buds like normal plants but i think it is their bushyness that means they dont tend to get as tall. So, yes i think this way will be great for indoors but not ideal for outdoors if you want to grow a huge plant as opposed to a nice squat bushy plant.

As it happens, my indoor went to head prematurely 3 weeks ago! ...because of some power outages. Usually i take clones before flowering. I was thinking i would have to sacrifice my yield by leaving all the underfoliage to reveg (i usually trim it all off so the plant can put energy into the canopy side buds) and delay my next run by having to reveg, but now i will just go in and hack low bonza mate!

I wonder which method will be better, mc or my usual routine, for continuous cycle... Probably the usual routine, as the mc way is 3 weeks and 2 days behind, possibly longer if a reveging clone takes longer than a normal one. But if you had longer flowerers and timing and veg area restrictions were a factor then the mc way might work nicely for continuous...