Taking clones from clones... opinions please.

[nici]

Hello again Louise, I'm surprised to read your question!... weren't we discussing this a long time ago? Good question though 

My opinion, and it's just what I've seen regardless of what I've read, is that I've not seen a noticeable drop in desirable traits in plants I've kept either as mother plants or continually cloned, for 3-4 years. Or even outdoor/indoor plants that have been revegged from the edge of death, they recover and off they go again with clones taken and passed on.

The biggest risk I think with keeping a mother/s is the persons lifestyle = you really need to have your shit sorted if you're wanting to keep a mother for the long run, 5 + years, and even then the wheels can fall off without prior warning.

After owning all the classics at one stage or another, Super Silver Haze, LUI, C99, Skunk No 1 etc etc... they're all gone. It wasn't until I'd lost treasured genetics on numerous occasions that I started seriously making seed.

Clones are great, they are quick and easy and hell it's just so much fun taking them and watching them grow but I still think that making at least one batch of seed makes good sense too. The mothers are long gone but there are thousands of seeds sitting in the freezer.

Hope that's not ended too far off track.

Bufo and Lou good to see you both around here again

Sorry to jump in Lou but bufo how Do you store your seeds in the freezer? Ive had seeds in the fridge going on 6yrs now and they still pop, some a little slower than others but theyre still good!

[bufo marinus]

Hi nici, nice to see you post as well.

Yes a Tupperware container in the freezer works, and like most of my bright ideas I got it from someone else  

Apologies Louise, you did say anecdotal experience !

[Matanuska Thunder]

Wow look at all the senior stoners on this post... I've just got the warm and fuzzies

 

agree with the above responses, should be no degradation in using a mum to flower, but taking a clone off her first, then making that clone the 'mum' till it too goes to flower -but not before having a clone taken off her.

I was doing that when I was keeping plant numbers down.

[papasmurf999]

I'm gunna follow for the learnin'. Need more discussion like this on here guys.

[bufo marinus]

There's a thread here somewhere with a guy talking about a Skunk plant he had cloned for 20 years with the only noticeable difference being the plant popped out a few preflowers when flowering, which in my opinion 9 out of 10 females will push out preflowers eventually, especially at the very end of flower.

But shit 20 years, that's a hell of a long time to be tending a garden and not end up in hospital, jail, overseas... ya know? 

Friends that do 3-400 plants a year outdoors don't use mothers, they've tried but could never get the timing right without the clones flowering early then revegging = shitty crop prone to mold.

[papasmurf999]

Curious why do clones flower quicker? I put a clone outside a couple weeks ago when it was less than 12 hours dark and it's already in flower.

[itchybromusic]

There's a thread here somewhere with a guy talking about a Skunk plant he had cloned for 20 years with the only noticeable difference being the plant popped out a few preflowers when flowering, which in my opinion 9 out of 10 females will push out preflowers eventually, especially at the very end of flower.

But shit 20 years, that's a hell of a long time to be tending a garden and not end up in hospital, jail, overseas... ya know? 

Friends that do 3-400 plants a year outdoors don't use mothers, they've tried but could never get the timing right without the clones flowering early then revegging = shitty crop prone to mold.

20 years , to long to remember what the original was like i reckon 

 

i've heard guys say that & when you press them on it there reply is

" it's still a good smoke " , which means , i have no idea on the original but this cut still works good

which could mean the cut is exactly the same or not , either way 20 years is a long time to have to remember possible differences  

 

Curious why do clones flower quicker? I put a clone outside a couple weeks ago when it was less than 12 hours dark and it's already in flower.

how many light hours was the cut getting indoor B4 going outdoor

it can be the jump from indoor light hours down to outdoor natural light hours that can cause flowering 

[papasmurf999]

Yeah was 24/0 under the blurple for a month or 2. Might be whats done it, see how she goes.

20 years , to long to remember what the original was like i reckon

 

i've heard guys say that & when you press them on it there reply is

" it's still a good smoke " , which means , i have no idea on the original but this cut still works good

which could mean the cut is exactly the same or not , either way 20 years is a long time to have to remember possible differences

 

how many light hours was the cut getting indoor B4 going outdoor

it can be the jump from indoor light hours down to outdoor natural light hours that can cause flowering

[louise]

Thanks everyone, 

 

I'll be back to respond to comments when I have a little more energy.

[bakedcake]

Curious why do clones flower quicker? I put a clone outside a couple weeks ago when it was less than 12 hours dark and it's already in flower.

I think because a clone is a exact replica of he mother it is already at he age it can mature hence it can develop the flowers, also with a reduced amount of light the photoperiod may believe it is changing season since been in veg so gearing up to start flowering hence the flowering but once it gets longer I guess it will just go shit and reveg