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****WARNING SKEPTIC ENTERING DISCUSSION****

 

****WARNING SKEPTIC ENTERING DISCUSSION****

 

I've mentioned this before, but these are just normal radar image anomalies, not real physical features. If they were real features you could see them quite easily from the ground and triangulate their position relative to the supposed maps showing them. Funny how no-one does that. :whistle:

 

Believe what you like, by all means, but this is not HAARP. You don't even actually know what HAARP is, so positing that there are three HAARP stations here causing circular cloud formations in Australia above capital cities (funnily enough directly out from the radar used for cloud monitoring) is a bit silly to say the least. Here's a thought, ever asked a meteorologist about what these images supposedly show? You know, someone with qualifications in interpreting such information... Sorry forgot myself there, you don't trust ANY authority. Ever.

 

But hey, you guys are sold on your ideas without actually providing any evidence for them, and you can't reason someone out of a position they haven't reasoned themselves into. I'll happily fight da powa side by side with you if there is some evidence for it. So far I'm underwhelmed by the twoofer/HAARP/NWO/illuminati proponents because they don't ever back up what they're saying with evidence, let alone proof. Ask for it and you get "google it". Strange. It's almost as if there is none that stands up to scrutiny. But merely questioning the idea of such conspiracies proves I'm a part of it doesn't it? I must be COINTELPRO eh? Yeah that's it. A shill for the NWO. :wallbash:

 

If someone out there is reading this and think there may be something to it, try and apply a little skepticism to the claims made and see if the evidence actually points to the conclusion made. I think you'll find it doesn't, and that the "evidence" provided for the most part consists of wilfull misunderstanding of science and logical fallacies. Some call me a cynic. I call myself a skeptic and proud to claim that.

 

Others think us skeptics are just meanies who take away all your fun just when your imagination has gotten started. Me? I think you're all a bit over-imaginative and need a bex and a lie down.

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Dear Darth,

 

I have done a LOT of research on HAARP, it is real and it is in use by the U.S. military, however I have also seen these BOM images for quite a while now and have to agree with your conclusion about them. As for HAARP being used around the world, I'm not sure how you'd actually prove it, unless you had the means to setup and monitor sophisticated apparatus AND just get lucky enough to be looking in the right place at the right time? Russia also has it's equivalent of HAARP as do a couple of other countries.

 

Relevant videos to chase up: 'Angels don't play this HAARP.' Jesse Ventura: Conspiracy theory, season 1 episode 1....or google. ;)

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In 2007 the australian guv funded $10m to a company called australian rain company, now known as australian rain technology, they have sites all over aus, then after futher investigating I found sufn rather interesting goin on in exmouth in w.a, go to google earth n have a squizz....

I've seen enough "evidence" to convince me that theres shit goin on in my own backyard, like it or not, this is goin on, ignorant or not...

So.....proove me, and every1 else wrong Darth??...give me a perfectly non-evil explination to what the site in exmouth is actually used for??...

To believe that the world is all rainbows n butterflies is a mere joke....

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In 2007 the australian guv funded $10m to a company called australian rain company, now known as australian rain technology, they have sites all over aus, then after futher investigating I found sufn rather interesting goin on in exmouth in w.a, go to google earth n have a squizz....

I've seen enough "evidence" to convince me that theres shit goin on in my own backyard, like it or not, this is goin on, ignorant or not...

So.....proove me, and every1 else wrong Darth??...give me a perfectly non-evil explination to what the site in exmouth is actually used for??...

To believe that the world is all rainbows n butterflies is a mere joke....

 

First, the onus of proof is on the claimant. If you make a positive claim you should back it up with evidence.

 

If you are referring to the Exmouth VLF and ULF towers on the military base they are used for submarine indian ocean communications. It's been running since the 60's and is well understood and almost entirely open to the public.

 

If you are referring to something else then I'm not sure. Google "NAVCOMMSTA Harold E. Holt" and you should learn a bit about the history of the place and the uses for the radio towers there. It's definitley military, that's not in dispute. But it's submarine communications not HAARP. The base was leased in the 60's for 25 years, and whilst that lease is expired and the base is now much more open than it used to be, there are still US officers running the sensitive portions of the communications systems.

 

I am not the one imagining the world as rainbows and butterflies, but if you tell me that the NWO is running a secret cabal of sleeper cells which regularly steal peoples left socks under cover of darkness for their nefarious sock powered ray gun, I'm going to need some evidence first. And evidence does not include logical fallacies, which is what I tend to see from CT enthusiasts.

 

The world is dangerous, there are nasty people out there and there are certainly lots of secrets that aren't currently exposed. But that does not mean that there is an illuminati controlling the world through intimidation. If you make a postive claim, I will only believe you if you can back it up. It's called skepticism, and it's probably the most valuable habit humanity developed. Don't believe what someone says because it's convenient or sounds cool or has apparently got explainations. Actually investigate the evidence and view it skeptically. Ask for evidence and proof of claims like these, because otherwise you may as well just be taking it on faith that the world is really how the Alex Jones' of the world see it. And frankly, that guy is batshit crazy, and demonstrably wrong in almost everything he says.

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Darth,

 

You know dude, sometime you're going to be able to see a photograph or get a government to admit to things. 'Sometimes' you have to gather as much info as you can and come to a 'best possible explanation' and speaking of logical fallacies, what is the one where you assume that just because someone can't provide watertight proof of their claim then it logically follows that those claims are therefore false?

There's plenty of evidence for a lot of conspiracies, and some CT's are a bit out there too, common sense combined with observation goes a long way. Also check out 'Money as debt' on Google and try to track down a doco called 'The Money Masters' of you want the longer documented version. Nothing to do with HAARP of course but it should switch a few lights on regardless. :)

 

Cheers

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Darth, I can tell you that I am not 100% with this Osama Bin Laden death. Something is very very suspicious about it, im not saying hes alive, but what is there to hide, they allegedly shot and killed him, so why not take a real picture of osama himself in his dead state?!

 

Evidence: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

 

 

i dont think you need to see evidence that the war in iraq/afghanistan is purely for the oil, and not to stop terrorism. who do you think funds these wars? the us federal reserve bank along with all these other banks. did you know the US Federal Reserve is privately owned? and lends money to the usa with high interest, causing a never ending debt?

 

the proof and evidence is there dude, you just need to take the time to look deep into it and stop dismissing it as non-true.

 

peace.

 

oh and last but not least, the ONE WORLD CURRENCY has been announced by medvedev, proof:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dieHDbwTU

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First, the onus of proof is on the claimant. If you make a positive claim you should back it up with evidence.

 

If you are referring to the Exmouth VLF and ULF towers on the military base they are used for submarine indian ocean communications. It's been running since the 60's and is well understood and almost entirely open to the public.

 

If you are referring to something else then I'm not sure. Google "NAVCOMMSTA Harold E. Holt" and you should learn a bit about the history of the place and the uses for the radio towers there. It's definitley military, that's not in dispute. But it's submarine communications not HAARP. The base was leased in the 60's for 25 years, and whilst that lease is expired and the base is now much more open than it used to be, there are still US officers running the sensitive portions of the communications systems.

 

I am not the one imagining the world as rainbows and butterflies, but if you tell me that the NWO is running a secret cabal of sleeper cells which regularly steal peoples left socks under cover of darkness for their nefarious sock powered ray gun, I'm going to need some evidence first. And evidence does not include logical fallacies, which is what I tend to see from CT enthusiasts.

 

The world is dangerous, there are nasty people out there and there are certainly lots of secrets that aren't currently exposed. But that does not mean that there is an illuminati controlling the world through intimidation. If you make a postive claim, I will only believe you if you can back it up. It's called skepticism, and it's probably the most valuable habit humanity developed. Don't believe what someone says because it's convenient or sounds cool or has apparently got explainations. Actually investigate the evidence and view it skeptically. Ask for evidence and proof of claims like these, because otherwise you may as well just be taking it on faith that the world is really how the Alex Jones' of the world see it. And frankly, that guy is batshit crazy, and demonstrably wrong in almost everything he says.

 

Sorry Darth but your claims are incredulous at best. You state that the claimant should follow through with evidence ... you state the array spoken of is for submarine communications ... are you aware of how many submarines australia has ?? not many. I have friends with top secret clearances. Alex jones' of the world ? lol no, conspiracy theorists is just a cover-word for "pursuit of truth" the problem is darth .... You state that he is demonstratably wrong in almost everything he says. YOU ARE WRONG. YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU ARE THE REASON THE COLLECTIVE HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAN IS HELD BACK. In your ignorance you fail to recognise that alex jones now only speaks of topics that have already been relayed from MAINSTREAM MEDIA yes, mainstream media. Please give me an example of just 5 erroneous falsified predictions given by alex jones... he has stated months ago that the US will go after pakistan, now look. You will see how legit he is when the US heads for pakistan. Pakistan has recently been evaluated as having more oil reserves than the saudi's but you knew that right? If you dont believe in weather manipulation technology... thats okay.... your delusion amazes nobody though ..... please watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Zk6CyNL9o.... the floods of nam' were generated. Please also dont fail to recognise head of haarp's already clearly stated facts about haarps capabilities my friend. unfortunately you live comfortable in the understanding that globalist oligarchical totalitarian governments care about our future. If so, why are we poisoned, why are the thoughts of man manipulated by mainstream media to a point of imbecility? Why even after the world health organisation has openly stated that fluoride causes infertility ... a lowering of the iq in children ..... docility and so forth within all major municipal water supplies in western societies worldwide..... . WAKE UP. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO REVOLT NOW, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE DONE SO AND HISTORICALLY WE HAVE OVERTHROWN THESE VERY SCUMBAGS previously.... your faith in the "weak amongst us" is a true indication of your acceptance of malarkey. Instead of hearing the word "conspiracy" and instantly denying it ..... actually do a little research my friend. Barium salts have been used for a long time to alter cloud formations. This is old technology. Firstly, i would like to acknowledge your understanding of haarp arrays and their technology before google-dorking it... that is .... your thoughts on it now without the aide of shpoogle; firstly i would like to hear of your understanding of said technologies. You speak of googleing a military complex to understand it's functionality? What government around the world will openly state what military compounds are specifically used for.... kind of counter productivity in a time in which the globe is in a total state of chaos and on the brink of total outright war worldwide. Now go back to sleep your government is in control ...... go back to sleep your government is in control ... go back to sleep your government loves you .... cares for you ..... your government supports the middle class and lower class, go back to sleep darth. (daft)

 

I would love to discuss alex jones with you publically as it were (on this forum) ..... The defeatists around the world that you hold so dear (apparently so) i would suppose ... had already looked at the evidence contrary to his claims .... so feel free. I guess he was wrong when he claimed the us govt has been continually caught shipping drugs into the country .... yeah .... oh wait hang on .... oh yeah, thats right .... oh .... oh .... its now mainstream news .... "us rangers help grow opium in afghanistan" do the research its mainstream news geraldo covered it, it was his interview. .... do the research ..... why do you seem to negate all conspiracy theorists as a kind of blind-faith toward obviously totalitarian government? .... well my friend, there is hope for you yet.

 

We are sick of taking guff from these swine,

 

A. Pissed-off-citisen. - Mahalo' (May you be in the divine blessings of the gods)

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