How safe is your glass in the eyes of the law?

[Sylar420]

Ok so u get that knock at the door the one every grower dreads, an angry cuntstable/orifice with a search warent of corse if you are growing you are gonna loose that but i ask what is the go with your bongs and pipes? obviously if you are in a state where such apparatus is illegal then the cops will most likely take it off you but im in Victoria and just wonder what would happen to my pride and joy.

 

Do they seize them all? do they only seize them if they are being "used"? If its clean, sitting on a shelf on display is it still gonna get confiscated?

 

I would like to believe that if the bong is clean, and on display on a shelf it would be like any other thing in the house but if it is dirty with obvious residue from the herb then the cops might eye it off

 

I ask this because i own a nice bong and am about to order a nice slide to kick the collection off and wonder what would happen if that day ever comes.

 

If someone know the laws or can shed some light on the matter id like to hear from you

 

sylar420 out

[snooch]

Can't say I know the exact law, but I'd say if they found any pot in the house, chances would be pretty high you'd lose any and all other paraphernalia likes bongs, pipes etc as well. Or they would, at the very least, try to take that stuff too.

[Sylar420]

Plan is to keep it all spotless and claim it as a collection, but if a cop was to try and confiscate it id push the whole shelf to the floor! id rather smash it all than give it to a cop.

[JohnnyBlazeJnr]

I never been put in such a position but like you I keep it all clean when not in use pretty much so would have my lawyer argue very hard to have them returned if they were confiscated for any reason.. My take on the situation is that there is nothing stopping me using any of my glass ware for smoking tobacco and if clean I should be able to prove they are not used with illegal substances, I own a hookah and have flavoured tobacco around so I could argue the point with cops or in court. I don't grow at home so that aspect doesn't worry me and I am pretty confident that if for what ever reason I get searched by cops that I will have a very good chance of retaining any glass that is clean (have to be realistic that I may lose something dirty or oil stuff) but also I have always in the past had good experiences with cops so not too paranoid about dealing with getting caught with weed/bongs again Edited August 21, 2010 by JohnnyBlazeJnr

[headstone]

My understanding is that bongs are legal to own in victoria and since the consumption of cannabis has been decriminalised it shouldn't matter if you have used the bongs to smoke pot, the pigs shouldn't be able to confiscate them.

 

Then again I'm an optimist and pigs are called pigs for a reason

[Sylar420]

Yea an oil rig would be free game for the cops cos it could be argued its illegal in Victoria due to the ability to vape meth in it.

As for my glass i was gonna get a few different pouches of pipe tobacco and keep it next to the collection in tins and claim its for a "legal" nicotine addiction

 

I do plan on getting a hookah soon along with herbal and tobacco shisha and keep it all in the same shelf so i can prove its for legal herbs not dope. I geuse if the find a tin of dope on the shelf where its on display then they can say ha ha its drug paraphernalia! but if there is only tobacco next to it and all glass is clean then there shouldn't be any grounds to confiscate it cos there is reasonable explanation and proof...to some extent

 

as for getting your layer to fight for it in court, do they keep your glass until then or "dispose" of it and only keep pictures?

Id like to think they would say "yea i threw it in the dumpster at the station" and just claim it themselves the cunts

 

If the pigs did go to confiscate the collection i think id still push the lot to the floor and get the satisfaction of smashing in front of them and not handing it to the pigs

[grace]

Ok so u get that knock at the door the one every grower dreads, an angry cuntstable/orifice with a search warent of corse if you are growing you are gonna loose that but i ask what is the go with your bongs and pipes? obviously if you are in a state where such apparatus is illegal then the cops will most likely take it off you but im in Victoria and just wonder what would happen to my pride and joy.

 

Do they seize them all? do they only seize them if they are being "used"? If its clean, sitting on a shelf on display is it still gonna get confiscated?

 

I would like to believe that if the bong is clean, and on display on a shelf it would be like any other thing in the house but if it is dirty with obvious residue from the herb then the cops might eye it off

 

I ask this because i own a nice bong and am about to order a nice slide to kick the collection off and wonder what would happen if that day ever comes.

 

If someone know the laws or can shed some light on the matter id like to hear from you

 

sylar420 out

 

 

The Drugs, Poisons and Controlled Substances Amendment (Prohibition of Display and Sale of Bongs) Bill 2010 was defeated on 25 May 2010.

 

Details of the Bill can be found in the Victorian Legislation and Parliamentary Documents at http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/

 

Click on Bills ... then click on No: 18 - Drugs, Poisons and Controlled Substances Amendment (Prohibition of Display and Sale of Bongs) Bill 2010

[Sylar420]

Thanks Grace

I read the bill and it seems that they can only seize a bong if it is put on display for the purpose of sale, in no part of the bill did i read that it is an offense for an individual to own or collect bongs even if they are dirty. So they cannot confiscate a bong.

Or did i read it wrong Grace?

[grace]

Thanks Grace

I read the bill and it seems that they can only seize a bong if it is put on display for the purpose of sale, in no part of the bill did i read that it is an offense for an individual to own or collect bongs even if they are dirty. So they cannot confiscate a bong.

Or did i read it wrong Grace?

 

 

Hi Sylvar

 

The Bill was defeated

 

http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/W...atus%202010.pdf

 

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS

Nos. 169, 170 and 171

No. 169 — Tuesday, 25 May 2010

 

http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/W...m171-supp48.pdf

 

See pp 1100-1101

 

8. DRUGS, POISONS AND CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AMENDMENT (PROHIBITION OF

DISPLAY AND SALE OF BONGS) BILL 2010 —

 

Debate resumed on the question, That the Bill be now read a second time.

Question — put.

 

The Council divided — The President in the Chair.

 

Ayes 16 Votes / Noes 20 Votes

 

AYES, 16

 

Mr Atkinson

Mr Dalla-Riva

Mr D.M. Davis

Mr P.R. Davis

Mr Drum

Mr Finn (Teller)

Mr Guy

Mr Hall

Mr Kavanagh (Teller)

Mr Koch

Mrs Kronberg

Ms Lovell

Mrs Petrovich

Mrs Peulich

Mr Rich-PhillipsMr O’Donohue

 

NOES, 20

 

Mr Barber

Ms Darveniza

Mr Eideh

Mr Elasmar

Ms Hartland (Teller)

Ms Huppert

Mr Jennings

Mr Leane

Mr Madden

Ms Mikakos

Mr Murphy

Mr Pakula

Ms Pennicuik

Ms Pulford

Mr Scheffer (Teller)

Mr Smith

Mr Somyurek

Mr Tee

Ms Tierney

Mr Viney

 

Hope this helps

[louise]

Despite the warrant reading 'drug use paraphernalia' they left my vape, hookah, grinder and the in use mix bowl (including the mix)... but I know other people who have lost all implements to the cops. Suppose it depends on the D in charge of the bust.