Nonannystate Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 I am certainly not trying to ram anything down anyone's throat, jNot specifically referring to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 People are free to make their own decisions. My parents in their 80s were both advised bu their GP to have the vaccination, and have had astrazeneca. I'm in my late 50s and am waiting for pfizer, but to be honest, I think I am being stupid, and probably should just get astrazeneca. The chances of blood clotting are miniscule. What you need to weigh up is the fact that getting Coronavirus also increases your risks of blood clotting, far higher than a vaccine ever will. I think with astrazeneca your chance of dying from blood clotting is one in a million. Don't take my word for it;European Respiratory JournalFrom the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, this disease has been associated with frequent thrombotic complications, due to the direct effects of the virus on the endothelium and to the “cytokine storm” following the host's immune response [2, 3]. In a recent meta-analysis of 102 studies involving 64 503 patients, the frequency of COVID-19-related venous thromboembolism was as high as 14.7%Consequently, since the COVID-19 vaccines mentioned above have been shown to effectively prevent symptomatic infection including hospital admissions and severe disease [8–10], the risk of COVID-19-related thrombosis should be expected to (almost) disappear in vaccinated individuals.https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/58/1/2101111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsmanspain Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 People are free to make their own decisions. My parents in their 80s were both advised bu their GP to have the vaccination, and have had astrazeneca. I'm in my late 50s and am waiting for pfizer, but to be honest, I think I am being stupid, and probably should just get astrazeneca. The chances of blood clotting are miniscule. What you need to weigh up is the fact that getting Coronavirus also increases your risks of blood clotting, far higher than a vaccine ever will. I think with astrazeneca your chance of dying from blood clotting is one in a million. Don't take my word for it;European Respiratory JournalFrom the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, this disease has been associated with frequent thrombotic complications, due to the direct effects of the virus on the endothelium and to the “cytokine storm” following the host's immune response [2, 3]. In a recent meta-analysis of 102 studies involving 64 503 patients, the frequency of COVID-19-related venous thromboembolism was as high as 14.7%Consequently, since the COVID-19 vaccines mentioned above have been shown to effectively prevent symptomatic infection including hospital admissions and severe disease [8–10], the risk of COVID-19-related thrombosis should be expected to (almost) disappear in vaccinated individuals.https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/58/1/2101111This is why people who have been studying this well before covid19 arrived are, with few exceptions, very keen to be vaccinated ASAP. It is sad to see so much anti-science propaganda confusing what is already an issue so complex its difficult to communicate to the general public without being seen as just another political opinion.Medical studies are often couched in ambiguous terminology and people are confused and frightened, that's fertile breeding grounds for misinformation and distrust.Just be careful please and take care of each other.TaMick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchybromusic Posted July 9, 2021 Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 absolutely agree it's def a complex issue made more complex when stupid amounts of money is involved but what's not so complex ( although it is really ) is your health with or without a jab tobacco , alcohol , takeaway / processed foods , if these are on high rotation in your life , then having or nothaving the jab could possibly be the least of your problems 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsmanspain Posted July 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2021 Spot on....Seedsman giveaway ends today....get those possums !TaMick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Have the jab, don't have the jab, I could'nt give a flying fuck either way but i'll surely be glad when agenda driven media, clueless politicians and the public in general stop trying to ram it down our throats via any format available....well said! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louise Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 What you need to weigh up is the fact that getting Coronavirus also increases your risks of blood clotting, far higher than a vaccine ever will. I think with astrazeneca your chance of dying from blood clotting is one in a million. Yep, everyone needs to weigh up the risks. Australian data from today. 6.1 million AZ jabs, 87 TTS cases, 5 TTS deaths Risk of TTS across all people vaccinated with AZ - 1:70,000 Fatality from TTS syndrome if a confirmed case - 1:17 Current fatality risk per AZ jab - 1:1.2 Million As a female in my late 50's with numerous comorbidities, I chose to get vaccinated. If I was a healthy 20 or 30 something, I might make a different choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsmanspain Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Yep, everyone needs to weigh up the risks. Australian data from today. 6.1 million AZ jabs, 87 TTS cases, 5 TTS deaths Risk of TTS across all people vaccinated with AZ - 1:70,000 Fatality from TTS syndrome if a confirmed case - 1:17 Current fatality risk per AZ jab - 1:1.2 Million As a female in my late 50's with numerous comorbidities, I chose to get vaccinated. If I was a healthy 20 or 30 something, I might make a different choice.There is a lot more to this than just calculating mortality rates. No-one wants to experience being so short of breath they require assistance of any kind. Long Covid is increasingly being recognised as a factor to consider as is the development of further mutations or variants in large unvaccinated pools (petri dishes).It is great to do your best to make an informed decision, unfortunately for some people their primary source of information is youtube and shock jocks.Congrats on your decision. I wish you well.currently waiting on my 2nd AZ shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonannystate Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 It is great to do your best to make an informed decision, unfortunately for some people their primary source of information is youtube and shock jocks. And mainstream media, Government and chat forums...All as unreliable as each other atm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsmanspain Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 And mainstream media, Government and chat forums...All as unreliable as each other atm.That doesn't leave much...so what is a reliable source of information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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