The big Q Organic v. Chemicals

[tazwhacker]

I am trying to decide at the moment what will be the best way to ensure a good grow using nutes. What results have pople obtained using either chem or organic?

Do you think Chemicals will be easier to use for an outdoor crop?

Will they make the buds more potent?

 

Thanks,

Tazwhacker :smoke

[F420]

IMO if your growing outside then stick with decent outdoors organics.

Something like blood and bone etc and a good organic soil.

Just dont use anything other than soil for awhile as it may burn the plants.

Indoors is a different story and your better off with chemical nutes.

 

This is an age old battle and really one that you have to sort out for yourself as your grows increase.

 

The differences really between organic and chemical is that in organics the chemicals are already in the soil.

where using hydroponic chemicals you using all the same stuff as organics except they are derived from Minerals. So they are not truely chemicals they are Minerals.

If you see a breakfast cereal with Added Minerals then you think it healthy dont ya?? Like Milo puses the fact that it has Iron in it. Its just a mineral and usually the same mineral used in a A+B setup.

 

Organics is really talking about the way you prevent problems, Like H202 is not organic but it does the job.

Biobugs are organic.

[mullupmeman]

IMO if your growing outside then stick with decent outdoors organics.

Something like blood and bone etc and a good organic soil.

Just dont use anything other than soil for awhile as it may burn the plants.

Indoors is a different story and your better off with chemical nutes.

 

This is an age old battle and really one that you have to sort out for yourself as your grows increase.

 

The differences really between organic and chemical is that in organics the chemicals are already in the soil.

where using hydroponic chemicals you using all the same stuff as organics  except they are derived from Minerals. So they are not truely chemicals they are Minerals.

If you see a breakfast cereal with Added Minerals then you think it healthy dont ya?? Like Milo puses the fact that it has Iron in it. Its just a mineral and usually the same mineral used in a A+B setup.

 

Organics is really talking about the way you prevent problems, Like H202 is not organic but it does the job.

Biobugs are organic.

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WTF?

 

Try seasol and a bloom nutrient for later or just plain hydro nutes - feed at half strength every second watering at least - weekly is OK as long as its using it (growing well).

[mullupmeman]

WTF?

 

Try seasol and a bloom nutrient for later or just plain hydro nutes - feed at half strength every second watering at least - weekly is OK as long as its using it (growing well).

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Woops - I meant every second watering at MOST not least (and I cant edit posts?).

[banned_again]

@ tazwhacker

pros of chems = faster growth, often bigger yields....

pros of organics = healthier smoke and often tastier bud, super cheap...

 

can do nice combos of both too....

 

 

So they are not truely chemicals they are Minerals

 

hmmm...

I hope you havent got back on them drugs again man...

[everest]

:: :: :: fuck the drugs just gimmie the minerals

[sLiM sHiFty]

so its okay to use hydro nutes outdoors ? wouldnt it effect the plant more since its more concentrated ? coz my friend was askin me to give him some and i didint know what to say

[Luke Skywalker]

Yes, you can use artificial chemical fertilisers on your plants outdoors, and in, and you can use organic derived nutrients on your plants outdoors, and in. As wc said, the differences are pretty simple, and sometimes very subjective.

 

Chemical fertilisers are made up of various nutrient chemical elements, combined in plant-usable forms. Plants can only absorb nutrients in a few particular molecular forms, which aren't available generally. In normal soil systems, the interaction between the soil biota, such as fungi, insects and worms, bacteria and other aerobes and anaerobes, break down the complex nutrients which are "locked up" in organic matter. Through this breakdown process, the nutrients are modified into plant-usable, (and water soluble) forms for the plants to absorb... Thus, the old gardeners saying of "feed the soil, not the plants..." is very appropriate. What you're trying to do in an organically based system is keep the soil life active and processing the manures and other organic nutrients you provide to the soil, so that the plants can in turn draw on this breakdown...

 

In hydroponic growing, you are replacing all that soil biota, (hydro-organic methods excluded here) with a simple, plant available nutrient solution which has all of the essential elements in their correct amounts for optimum growth. This means that the plants are able to get exactly what they need, when they need it, "on tap" as it were. Hydroponic systems are often very well aerated as well, and this extra oxygen available to the root system often increases the plants growth rate as well, as air is one of the limiting factors to a plants growth.

 

So the differences between organic and hydroponic growing methods can be simple, but the objective differences between the plants grown by these two methods are somewhat variable. Most can claim with some authority that hydroponic growth rates are quicker, (mostly due to the extra aeration and constant nutrient supply) and take less time to reach maturity. On the other hand, some would contend that these plants are soft and sappy, not as strong as their organic cousins as they are not exposed to the same organic compounds that soil plants are. They might take longer to grow, but most organic growers insist that their products taste better, are better for the surrounding environment, (which is fairly true) and are more "natural".

 

Hope this helps.

[highrider]

ive got 80 plants 20 6ft 205ft 204ft and 20 the same age as the 6 fotters but only 2 foot high their a heaps madder looking strain but their in the middle of a very big swamp i throw 5litre containers as hard as i can and then again and im their im using nitrosol for the flowering stage and i'll be using some sort of hydro chemical for the flowering stage still have 3 months of day light savings and 20 plants r allready 6 foot is it wise to leave them in the vegeative stage for this long?

[jimbojones5678]

OK...................that last comment was good.

 

Jimbo - confused Jimbo....