Painkiller tolerance?

[Guest niall]

Hey guys,

 

I don't consider myself a medicinal user, but some of you guys really know your stuff re: painkillers so I'd love to hear any comments you have.

 

I had a really nasty soft tissue tear in my back over 3 years ago, wasn't able to move for a week and ended up on Valium when I finally got to the doctor. It was only 200mg from memory, maybe that's wrong it was so long ago. It's never really healed and I'm starting to think it never will. I'm doing all sorts of rehab and abdominal strengthening etc. but one thing I noticed over the last few months has scared the shit out of me.

 

I've been using Ibuprofen as needed, not often and not until it becomes unbearable, as directed with food etc. and the last month or two it hasn't done a thing. It's always worked, but now nothing. My back goes into spasm and if I can't keep a lid on it then I'm fucked for the rest of the day. I was using them almost daily for the first year or two, but haven't had them more than a few times a month over the last year.

 

It couldn't compare to most of the spine problems some of you guys have had, and I can take the pain fine - it's scary how you build up a tolerance, it just scares me how this particular substance doesn't work anymore. I haven't increased the dosage as I don't want to be using them in the first place, I know they're weak as shit but I still don't like the idea of using painkillers.

 

Pot does help my spasm, and like someone said in another thread it distracts you from the pain moreso than actually reducing it significantly, but again I don't want to become dependent on something for pain relief. I'm working in rehab quite hard and I'm sure I'll beat this or at least manage it in the long term.

 

Just curious if anyone has had this experience with something as impotent as Ibuprofen? Any comments or recommendations?

[syk613]

as stated above nsaid cause ulcers when used for prolonged periods and not taken with food, however the new class of nsaid reportedly don't effect the pH of the stomach to the same extent and therefore when taken with food should be relatively safe for most adults. It is this reason and the fact they reversibly bind to their receptors that these drugs are prefered over their older counterparts ie aspirin used in Aust before 1788

[RobbieGanjaSeed]

Even the modern breed of NSAIDs give me bleeds. But that could be because of the pre-exsisting problem from the old school drugs. But I've had doctors run at about 50/50 claiming they do or they don't cause gut problems any better/worse than the others.

 

I like to think they're better, that's for sure.

 

Another thing about the modern anti-inflamitories is that they do actually work! As you rightly said. They work so well in fact, that I was almost able to get by with just these class of drugs alone, before the trouble in my gut was traced. So both class of NSAIDs are off the list for me, according to the experts anyway, so they must still have some corosive-ness about them. Yep, it should be min. if you take them with food, but when you take medicine several times a day, every day, every week, every month, all year, year after year; you do tend to cut corners. It's just not possible to keep up to all the dos and don'ts for that kind of time period.

 

You get forgetful, and you get tired of it all.

 

cheers

rob

[Eff2Fifty]

Hi All, Anyone got any info. on dependence etc.. from smoking. Just coming out of a serious dependence on painkillers, really heavy dependence. Have just started smoking again to releive pain, back surgery X 3, not going to use opiates again, am i just swapping apples?

[ActiveA]

Just my little input.

 

 

I had chest surgery about a year and half ago. They gave me some strong Codeine or something along those lines, when i tried to get to sleep, I'd pop a couple of these pills and I'd just feel ill as hell until I passed out. I tried smoking bud instead, it numbed the pain okay, but not as good as the codeine, but i preferred it because I could sleep without feeling like my guts were going to be on the floor.

[ianTE]

Hi All, Anyone got any info. on dependence etc.. from smoking. Just coming out of a serious dependence on painkillers, really heavy dependence. Have just started smoking again to releive pain, back surgery X 3, not going to use opiates again, am i just swapping apples?

 

Opiates, there is no pain like opiate withdrawal

Pot and opiates arent even in the same orchid

If the pot works

[Guest niall]

Wow forgot about this thread. 5 years on, 8 years from the original injury, and thousands and thousands of $ in MRIs and ultrasounds and various painkillers and GP visits and every kind of specialist ... I'm a teensy bit closer to figuring out what this injury is.

 

Now using Mercindol (sp?) for when it's unbearable, mostly for the muscle relaxant so I can actually get some sleep, but the codeine is disgusting makes me slur like I'm drunk and the hangover is fucked.

 

I'm finding that the best thing for my spasm to relax and to get a good night sleep is a heavy Indica or hash that's heavy in cannabinoids other than THC. Sativa's are like speed for me, and I can't stand any type of stimulant, plus they make me anxious and paranoid (been warned to stay away from Haze). A heavy Indica is the only thing that I can sleep on, or think clearly with. I discovered it by accident when I smoked some volcano leftovers, and as disgusting as that sounds my mouth is watering just thinking about it - quite happy to vape up mates so I can smoke the leftovers!

 

So Eff2Fifty: try to get access to different strains, hash, oil - anything and everything to find what works for YOU. We're all different, think of cannabis as a toolkit for many different types of health problems and types of people - you just need to find the right type and dosage, you can get very different results depending on the ratio of cannabinoids, terpenoids, flavinoids and other volatiles that we don't know about or understand yet.

[WantDaChronic]

Hi All, Anyone got any info. on dependence etc.. from smoking. Just coming out of a serious dependence on painkillers, really heavy dependence. Have just started smoking again to releive pain, back surgery X 3, not going to use opiates again, am i just swapping apples?

im currently perscibed 5mg valium, 8mg dilaudid and 40mg oxycontin and i can tell you that pot is much easier on the body than any of those drugs. i ended up having to take a month long break as my doctor went on holidays and coming off the 20mg oxycontin i was on the time was terrible. i felt 50-100x worse than i ever have when i have taken a break from cannabis and now the medication im on barely does anything for my pain. pot on the other hand helps more than all those other drugs combined and if i build a tolerance to what ever im smoking its as simple as changing strains to get the desired effects, the same cant be said about the pharmacuticals

 

niall, i believe most of the thc is released when vapourized and a fair amount of the other cannabiniods are left behind which is why people can still get stoned from smoking vaped weed. because the other cannabiniods have much better medicinal qualities than thc smoking vaped weed should be really good for you personally i havent tried it, but when my vaporstar arrives i'll be putting it to the test.

[konflikt]

i found coming off codeine hard enuff, quit the crap and smoke weezy