Which ferts do you use?

[Joe]

Hi haven't been here for a while, in fact may never have been here, might have been the old forum, same names tho. I used to post as Joe about a year ago.

 

I put most of my work into the soil, but maxicrop and the like are pretty good. I have never had a burn problem with it, not even heard of one. If anyone has it would be good to hear about it.

 

But I also make my own tea for them. Get a bin or bucket, at least 20 litres, and put in cow poo fresh from the paddock, bananas, mangoes, pineapples, any that are overripe, or just the skins, or both. Also get heaps of comphrey leaves, a wee bit of tansy. mix the lot up and let it stand till its bubbling away. apparantly stinging nettles work very well too.

 

Leave it at week a fortnight is probably the right time, and give it a week if you add anything other than fruit from then on.

 

IE If after a month of using it you have a heap of fruit you want to put in do so and keep using it, but if you are topping up on the poo, or the greens leave it another week till you use it again.

 

Thats basically it. I use 500 ml to 10 litres up to 750 ml if the mix is a bit weak, that knowledge will come with experience. i use a coffee mug and put in 2 1/2 to 3 cups per 10 litres. The mixture seems pretty forgiving tho, so just don't pour it on raw or at about 50/50 mix. In truth I don't think that would hurt.

 

the only other thing is that after about a year a mate reccommended adding a big chunk of straw, (adds carbon good for compost), the stuff was great anyway but that didin't hurt it one bit. I have used the same bucket for years and never changed it. just keep topping up the mixture. Haven't got anything to put it on this year tho. I will have to take steps to remedy that soon.

 

Over the last couple of years I have added things like bits of strawberry, plums avocado and the like, so long is the fruit is sweet. One of the best things about this mixture is the sweet subtle taste it adds to the plants flavour. Doesn't kill or overpower the flavour but definitely complements it.

 

I add it once or twice a fortnight and interchange it with maxicrop.

 

Sometimes I have gone a bit silly and added it once every three or four days, especially during head season. some plants love it and the buds go sick, others it seems to make no difference. i think the ones that went off were Sativas, the Indicas usually end up pretty chunky anyway.

 

to be honest I wasn't that into this genetics or that back then, but I had a vague idea, Old Maui strains crossed with god knows what over the years up a certain valley over the range from mullum. Terania creek terror was one the names we used to give it. the folk from up the valley just used to call it old faithful or something.

 

but everything loves the mix these days, esp the Blueberry bloodline (should that be sapline).

 

BTW whats the deal with the smileys, just had to take them all out.

[Guest Urbanhog]

I personally think Yate's Thrive is great shit specially for the vegetaive stage.... Even Kog swears by it.

 

I remember when I was living in Tasmania, I had this big backyard vegetable garden when I was living with my oldies, I often get a huge old plastic garbage bin, get a bag of chook poop and bit of seaweeds from my local beach (about 1-2 buckets worth rinsed and washed off all the salts/sands off) and then filled up the bin with water, and give it a good stir every week and forget about it (the bin was covered but not too tightly) for a month, and the "seaweed and chook poop brew" started to bubble away as if you were brewing your own beer .... my tomatoes, pumpkins, Eggplants, capsiums, chillis, and many other vegies somehow loved this brew mix, I used 1-2 cups per 10 litres of water for young plants and 3-4 cups per 10 litres of water when they got older... great potent brew.... I havent tried on MJ plants because I can image it will stink up the house if ever used indoors.

 

Because I also had a group of chickens also, and I just chucked all the scraps, old plants anything in the chook pen, and they will just keep themselves entertained for days and days scratching their souls and mind off... I personally think watching them is so relaxing just like watching fish tanks, they have this odd powerful calming effect.

 

That the thing I miss about Tassie having big backyard vegie garden and chickens to work for me along for "free ferts/poop" and get eggs at the same time, now I am living inner city in Brisbane.

 

I can image that MJ plants will love the chook and seaweed brew specially in the vegie stage...... hehehe

 

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[Joe]

Chooks, unreal. I was born in Tassie, my mums family are from there. Mum and dad had chooks up until they moved recently, they have been living in suburban melbourne for a few years, with chooks in the backyard. They had a fantastic garden in the yard. Chooks are great.

 

I remember huge amounts of kelp washing up on the beach n Tassie, trippy stuff to touch too, all rubbery.

 

A guy I went to school with, his dad actually died in one of those big forests of kelp. He got tangled up in one and ran out of air. Those forests always freaked me out after that. Ever seen film of one, they give me the creeps.

 

I was actually going to harvest some of the weeds from the dams around where I live and try them in the bucket soon. I am hoping they will have a maxi crop like effect. I use the stuff in the bucket for the veggie and herb garden as well, they love it.

 

But I wouldn't want to use it indoors either, might make things taste nice, but it stinks.

[Joe]

Used thrive years ago, went Ok, well actually. Maxicrop seems to stop mold better tho. I know a few people who swear by miracle grow, and they don't really flush, but there is no yuk chem taste. And very nice results.

 

Not as tasty as the tea tho.

[Guest Urbanhog]

Kelp is important part in these commerical ice creams... believe it or not.... There's Big Kelp farms in King Island near Tasmania that they grow and export to UK for ice cream making..... they process the Kelp, its something to keep the Ice cream smooth, not too icy/watery icey if you get my drift.

 

I was told this by my old cooking school teacher who was a pom.

 

Miracle-Gro is OK bit low in nutes because if I am correct from my memory the N.P.K ratio is only something like 15/13/12, Thrive has higher something like 27 for N I think, but low in K for budding.

 

Cheers,

 

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[Tom]

Because I also had a group of chickens also, and I just chucked all the scraps, old plants anything in the chook pen, and they will just keep themselves entertained for days and days scratching their souls and mind off... I personally think watching them is so relaxing just like watching fish tanks, they have this odd powerful calming effect.

I somehow acquired a feral chook with the house, it got into my stealth garden MK 1 and wiped the lot.

 

Q. Can chickens fly?

 

A. With a straw broom as propellent they can clear a six foot stealth garden fence.

 

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[white_cluster]

bone meal is real important, and guano and potash. good compost with lotsa cowcrap, fish. dont use the grass that you catch behind the mower, theres too much of it.

I like organic based nutes like Dynasol. But get most of your nutes through your soil mix. If you use pots use Hortico brand soil its good stuff, hardly any bloody woodchips like most soil. add heaps of perlite say 30%.

Just cos Kog uses Thrive doesn't mean shit. Kog grows the worst buds on the North Coast.

[Jase]

I am also nearing the end of my first grow, and have had quite good results with plenty of buds, for jus a couple of small outdoor plants. but the buds arnt quite ready for harvest yet and i am moving house soon. i was wondering if anyone knew of a good fertiliser to speed up the flowering process so that i can crop the plants befor i need to move

[Guest Urbanhog]

Just cos Kog uses Thrive doesn't mean shit. Kog grows the worst buds on the North Coast.

Thats fine white, you are welcome to state your opinions... are you saying they are the worst buds because they are BUSH? Have you seen his buds personally? I know you think the Kog's Book is Shit for Growing advice, but I think its simple and straight forward, just the basic advice, why need to get advanced and techinal like Mel Frank's books just for Outdoor? Like T-boat always say... pot is a weed... why need to get all techinal and information overload just for the outdoor crops? Its all about common sense really IMO

 

I like Bush buds some days, just to get mellow not too couch locked. Not everyone smokes hydros......

 

I think Thrive is good fertizler for some plants, its cheap and does the job for me..... I never said I am always right, just sharing my opinions and experiences.

 

Least I dont get paranoid to get outside and make or meet friends and I dont smoke 2-3 ounces a week.

 

I dont mind shitty buds, they great products for my cannabutters...

 

cheers,

 

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[white_cluster]

Just cos Kog uses Thrive doesn't mean shit. Kog grows the worst buds on the North Coast.

Thats fine white, you are welcome to state your opinions... are you saying they are the worst buds because they are BUSH? Have you seen his buds personally?

I've seen heaps of Kogs buds, I was born in Kogs town.

Yeah, the main reason I dont like the buds is they are guerilla farmed, seedy things. Obviously no care for individual plants. I like outdoor pot, but not really that guerrila stuff.

I love the fact it exists, Before I grew, all I bought was bush and leaf, you get alot more stoned for your dollar.

But now I dont know if I could smoke it, I'm a picky wanker.

On the Thrive, the reason I don't like thrive is outdoor buds should be organic. Also with an N-P-K like that I would be scared of over fertilizing my plants.

I have indoor pot that is mellow and cerebral. But generally in Aus, its indoor = indica, outdoor = sativa.

I wish I could still grow outdoors because that is where pot belongs, and I hate looking at the windy Sativa's indoors with their skinny buds bent all over the place.

 

Mel Franks book is pretty basic I thought, I've only read that 1 though. I dont agree with alot of the stuff in Mels book either, but I reckon thats probably cos its so old.

 

uhhmmm, Im sorry I have no friends, But even if I did get out I wouldn't, I've got a crap personality.