RobbieGanjaSeed Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hey I'm really curious about how to make a plant with varrious strains on the one rootstock. Like you see citrus trees with mandarin, oranges limes or whatever; grafted all on one rootstock, I imagine the same can be done with grass can it? I have limited space for parent plants, and if for no other reason than to "store" genes, and be able to reasonably quickly get a particular strain going, without having to go through seed sprouting, selection, culling bla bla bla...Once I've gone through that, why not graft a splice of the plant that was left after all the selection, onto a single vigorous rootstock and "shelve " it for when it's needed? Is this possible without mudling the whole thing up into some generic homogonised...nothing?..? I recall someone on overgrow maybe saying something about it some years back, but I may be wrong. Then Gouger said something and it struck me what a grouse idea if it isn't some mad science to do it. I've got a few nice strains I want to keep going, as I imagine most people do, but don't know just when I'll get around to doing a grow of "this or that". Be nice to have just the mother plants for what I'm doing now, and then have another "living file system" of a plant which could be accessed to change strains in as long as it takes to take a few clones. And not to mention keeping the over-all number of plants down. Less to care for fpr example, less power costs...a number of great reasons. All I can think of on a down side (if it can be done) is all your eggs wil be in one basket, so you'd have to be extra careful with that plant. But imagine if the shit hit the fan, and you had to pull a crop. U could stash a single plant at a mate's place and keep all ya genes. If you have to go away, just one plant to set up on an automatic watering system. Some decent benifits of it is able to be done. And even if all your eggs are in one basket, how many times have you done away with a strain because of lack of space, only to regret it. So we loose strains all the time now, simply to safety sake and room sake. So, anyone know if and how to do it? cheersrob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radic Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 irey seedyyes it is posible to graft cannabisyo!!!!!!that would be a very interesting expermentimoyour plan should work fineas long as the mother plant is happy you have your bio geen bankvery clevercannabis seed is only viable for 2yso if you can keep her happy longer than 2y youll be doin allrightbrotell iin an ideal enviroment, how long could you keep ya bio geen bank alive????????trueyou would need to be in a very stable enviroment to set diss up in,have power fail safe back ups,be on call 24/7/365 till the plant becomes redundentwoowdatz dreadicationnuff raspect to bro seedyevery timeyothere is many simple ways to graft get a booki havethe grafter's handbook by g j garner its a standard from my ag collage dayzit a bit old nowa quick google would show up more up to dat infohoweverafter a quick browes thru the bookmay bex splicing might be easy for youim only guessing reallythere so many way of grafting google image for pix on different grafting styles guidance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekul Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I put a post just like this in breeding and genetics, great minds think alike! I have done a graft at home so i'll let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 This an interesting subject, but because MJ is an annual and not a perennial plant problems "may" occur. Bonsai could be another alternative.CheersGills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radic Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 This an interesting subject, but because MJ is an annual and not a perennial plant problems "may" occur trueimocontrol of photo preiodism is crucial for this project to succeedveg cycle must be maintained till the graffs fully take and the plant recoveres from the pruningthis could take quite some time and expermintation to perfect for a bio geen bank this is a viabale concept for a 1 plant grow set up there much bigger problems to overcome some disadvantages to considervery time consumingyou need fresh cuttings from all the different varieties you want to graft all at the same timeor consectivelyeither waytime in veg will be extensive till she is ready to put in bloomplussthe shock from the graffs will take lotas tlc to nerse her thru however at this point with a detailed management plan she is quite a saleable productfe realthenbloom cycle has it own special requierments which need interment management plansnuff raspectyou have the dreadacation to forward inta uncharted watersput your dreams to realityi hafe love and support dat everytime 1 way to overcome dis delemor is at end of every harvestyou could add some graffs and then reveg herslowley you could build up the different varieties pon the 1 root stock but you still need availability of fresh cuttings at crucial timesso you could grow them all out door and still only have 1 plant under hydrotimming is crucial tho irey guidance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekul Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I think it is a great idea as a mother at least to cut down on how many plants are required. I have done a graft (it hasn't taken yet) of ruderalis indica onto a pure sativa to see whether it will have any impact on the rest of the plant. Ruderalis is always producing the hormone to flower but only flowers once that hormone has reached significant levels. It will be interesting to see whether that hormone will spread to the rest of the plant. Interestingly, a single cannabis branch can be flowered if the branch is recieving a 12/12 cycle. This would make me believe that the hormone for flowering is only effective locally but my experiment will see.I have done a few other grafts to see if it works and the time taken for grafts to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radic Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 a single cannabis branch can be flowered if the branch is recieving a 12/12 cycle wwoooowi have allwayz wondered if dat is possible have you dun it??????must take some skill to black the light out of just 1 branch for 14 nightsmany have tried caus to id males early is a big advantage Ruderalis is always producing the hormone to flower but only flowers once that hormone has reached significant levels isnt that the same for all cannabis??????slight veration may beoh i cyes wellslight variations one would only expect to see minium effectseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekul Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Build 2 small rooms right next to each other. Get a branch and train it into the second room through a small hole. Make sure the plastic you are using is quite thick so that no light whatsoever is getting through. use blue tack around where the branch is coming in, turn down lights in second room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radic Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 (edited) yo gotta love dat Edited July 9, 2008 by Radic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radic Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 woowhave you done this successfully?????wickediyohow long could 1 plant be keeped in constant veg and bloom at the same time???????? think about it1 plant ina constant grow and bloom cyclesyou could just flower what you need when you need it you would need a special nuitrent solution mixto catter for the different bloom and grow plant requirements at the same timethat would not be too hard to achieve what do you think????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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