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attachicon.gif001 (19).JPG Hey guy's, could this be Mongy Weed? attachicon.gif018 (2).JPG

that looks like Dr Grinspoon from Barneys Farm


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The mutation was found up and down the east coast within isolated wild sativa populations, from as long ago as the the late 70s early 80s. Many tried to out cross to add potency, as all the origional lines seemed to lack potency, but the stealth trait was valuable enough to use it for breeding. Some of the origional mutant lines grew like vines and grew into massive hedges/ trellis bushes, whilst others had a short xmas tree stature. The vine version is where the myth of the cannabis hops gaft came from, whilst its possible to graft the two (same family), its a totaly useless act with no benefits, and wont produce the mutant vine.
Fet( the ozzy breeder with Dizzy) apparently found his mutant line in far north qld, would love to see u and him discuss it :thumbsup: . Not saying that u didnt find it wild 20 years ago, but i am saying that your local wild population was not the only one in oz to sport the mutation.
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Does anyone know or know how to contact Moonunit?  It's clear his experience predates everyone's experience with the Australian mutant cannabis lines.  I've read elsewhere that Wallyduck is an old friend of Moonunit...but sadly Mr. Duck is also missing in action it seems.  If anyone still retains contact with either Wally or Moon I would love to be put in touch with them.  

 

 

I was first introduced to this strain around about 35 years ago. It was known to the people who I got the seed off as "claytons." I don't know about anyones stories about where this originated. But I lived at the time, not far from Nimbin, northern NSW. My introduction to it was to see a paddock full of the stuff, in manicured rows, with a flowering shrub between every second plant. That was on the side of a hill overlooking Nimbin, for all the world to see.. No one even gave it a second glance. They had to pull it early due to infighting in their group, and needed somewhere to dry probably a hundred pound or more. So for a small fee and some seed, I volunteered. That's how I came by the seed. I played with it for many years, I even had the cops come to my rural house looking for the guy who used to live next door. I had about " a few" claytons plants in my veggie patch, dispersed with veggies. Fully in head and about 4 feet tall and 3 feet across.. I was watering the veggie patch when the cops just appeared in my yard, pulling up right beside my veggie patch. They got out of their bull wagon and asked about the guy next door. After I said I didn't know where he was, they looked straight over the veggie patch fence and said, " nice healthy veggie patch mate". As you could imagine, I shit. I didn't know if they were playing with me or not. But they got into their van and drove off. Hard to believe I spose, but a true story. I messed about with the strain for years, till finally getting busted with it through friends of friends arguing, females to be precise. Woman scorned sure applied to that bitch. I as just an innocent victim of her ire.. I haven't bothered with it for 15 odd years, and I now have no seeds. But I do regret losing my seed stock.. Anyway, it is real, if grown almost to the point of death, it is as good as average weed. And I am sceptical about anyone laying claim to its origins. I sure as hell don't know where it came from. And when I got busted with a couple of claytons plants 20 years back, the coppers sure knew about it then..

 

 

I'm not calling anyone a liar. Merely pointing out its been around for a long time. As I said, my experiences with it go back, pushing 35 years. And over the years I have heard all manner of stories about its origins. Everything from hidden Russian valleys [ a bit like the Wollemi Pine saga ], to "mad professors" experiments with colchicine induced polyploids. For all I know, Mongy-mans story about the old couple in the outlying areas of Sydney may be true. But if so, that's one hell of a mutation, from normal pot to claytons........... Its an enigma with no logical answer, certainly no answer has surfaced to convince me fully. None..

 

 

My experiments with growing it, showed that it had to be grown almost till it started dying at the end of its cycle, then it was at its strongest potency. Picked any earlier, it was shit as you said. My view of its potency would be to say if it is grown properly, its as good a smoke as average normal pot. It was the early growers of Bindy weed that fucked the name, by growing an inferior product, picking it too early.. Back in its infancy , it was great to grow because you could grow it under the noses of the coppers and get away with it. Other than that, I don't really know why anyone would bother with it now, other than novelty value.... When I got busted with a couple of plants, the coppers sent it off to their lab for analysis. I was convicted with growing pot, so it must have shown up as pot in the lab. However they can tell I don't know, the presence of THC presumably ... 

 

 

 

Twunit also seems to have experience with the mutant cannabis predating "Mongy weed"...I know twunit hasn't been online for quite some time but I would also like to chat with him about the history of these Australian mutant weeds.  If anyone knows twunit, please pass the word on.  

 

On a final note...myself and a handful of Cannabis Historians are working on a book series covering the history of Marijuana in all its forms...and we would love to include the Australian mutants in the books with as much detail & true history as possible.  Anyone else who knows anything about the Mutants please feel free to chime in or write me directly please.  

 

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help, even a little, in this endeavor.  :)


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Does anyone know or know how to contact Moonunit? It's clear his experience predates everyone's experience with the Australian mutant cannabis lines. I've read elsewhere that Wallyduck is an old friend of Moonunit...but sadly Mr. Duck is also missing in action it seems. If anyone still retains contact with either Wally or Moon I would love to be put in touch with them.









Twunit also seems to have experience with the mutant cannabis predating "Mongy weed"...I know twunit hasn't been online for quite some time but I would also like to chat with him about the history of these Australian mutant weeds. If anyone knows twunit, please pass the word on.

On a final note...myself and a handful of Cannabis Historians are working on a book series covering the history of Marijuana in all its forms...and we would love to include the Australian mutants in the books with as much detail & true history as possible. Anyone else who knows anything about the Mutants please feel free to chime in or write me directly please.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help, even a little, in this endeavor. :)

Gday mate!

A bloody historian hey....

Got any story's to tell?
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Looks like you'll have to buy the book bogan lol

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As the mystery deepens


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My experiments with growing it, showed that it had to be grown almost till it started dying at the end of its cycle, then it was at its strongest potency. Picked any earlier, it was shit as you said. My view of its potency would be to say if it is grown properly, its as good a smoke as average normal pot. It was the early growers of Bindy weed that fucked the name, by growing an inferior product, picking it too early.. Back in its infancy , it was great to grow because you could grow it under the noses of the coppers and get away with it. Other than that, I don't really know why anyone would bother with it now, other than novelty value.... When I got busted with a couple of plants, the coppers sent it off to their lab for analysis. I was convicted with growing pot, so it must have shown up as pot in the lab. However they can tell I don't know, the presence of THC presumably ...


The police are aware that it exists no doubt.

I think only mongy can give a proper and concise explanation as to its origins and botanical nature...
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Gday mate!
A bloody historian hey....
Got any story's to tell?


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id love to get my hands on a few of these seeds..
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Well a few peeps have them. Mongy claims his differs to others. I dont think he is wrong either.
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