the nimbin hemp bar

[Budman2012]

 

Who Validates your Views ? ..

 

 

 

P.s. (this is alot to take in , BigBong your last response was agin not directed either At me or Toward me ... In fact , I dont think apon reading this thread that U have actually taken anyones views or Facts into account ... I think If you will care to read back that You have "flip flopped/backflipped" on your previus statements ... So you change a few words in your statemant ... It still Means the same thing ... Why persacute your fellow Man/stoner ?? , I told you that I grow "Bush" and I understand where youare At o.k. but plz ... man ... you need to do more research into this matter ... You may have been fightin the gard fight for years ... and maybe you think I havent , but I don't think misguided Out-of-touch veiws are going to help any of us in "OUR" fight for freedom of this Oppression ... Plz ... Bcuz there are so many people reliant now on Homegrown .. You can't just take up this stance that somehow you are Better than these people (who some maybe care to grow indoors) just bcuz you have the oppurtunity to grow sufficiently outdoors ..

 

 

Well , I'm a little stoned now , and very happy to be smokin my "ORGANIC" "HOMEGROWN" ... damn man ... wake up plz plz you Hippy bastards .. Don't get old like Half our Folks have hey Jokes remember?

 

 

Yours sincerely (High)

 

Budman.

 

 

P.s. , What exactly would you like your fellow MJ advocate/grower to do if they live in a city??? plz answr.

[Jess Stone]

First up "respect BigBong.org" ,however ,

First up and most obviously, the HEMP Bar mission statement was edited thanks to input of OzStoners, instead of being general and non specific about hydroponic dangers, it has been honed into a much better word assembly that will keep alerting newbie cannabis smokers to the inherent dangers of indoor cannabis for years to come.

I respectfully major-ly disagree with this statement, What dangers? This is Morris the mafioso Iamscumma's propaganda,and he gets his info from bludgers on elite-work-for-the-dole(study grants that depend on getting the 'right' results to get further stud... I meam elite-work-for-the-dole!)

A plant is just a plant! It can take up no more than the optimum amount of nutrients no matter in the soil or whatever 'hydro' is supposed to be?As according to NSW's new 'hydro' laws growing in SOIL under lights as most city folk do as they have NO choice qualifies as 'hydro'.

I say to you I doubt(respectfully) you could tell the difference between In or Out grown with identical seeds ,no offence but I doubt very few people could tell the difference between In / Out ,Organic / Chem fert and all combos of these growing styles . Seriously BigBong.org, Hydroponics is nothing more than a growing method , do you ever eat fruit or veggies from Coles or Woolies or corner shops ? Many lettuce,tomatoes,strawbs,caps etc are grown 'hydro' , are they poisonous?

Ssh I have smoked up 'hydro' in the Hemp Bar and no one knew till I said so ,nor cared once were told ! Quality is quality and thats what most smokers care about , was polluting their lungs worth the buzz? Peace and keep up the good work! J.S.

[Budman2012]

Hehehe , This thread reminds me of a mouse holding a peice of Cheese that is trapped by a cat in the corner ... tha cat only wants the cheese. . hehehehe

The mouse will always be free , no matter it gets eaten or not ... the cat is a graceful moron ...

 

I am the peice of cheese.

 

[BigBong.org]

webgreetings.

 

I try not to answer anyone 'specifically', I'd attempt to speak generally and on the issue, I would point out that I haven't attacked any of you specifically, nor called any of you names, I only asked you to look at it from an outdoor organic point of veiw, I am not insisting you agree with what we say, merely in our right to say it.

 

I would point out that no matter what we say, the HEMPBar crew have been constantly criticized and insulted from the start of this thread, I would point out that I added my first post at #27. go back and reread my first post, and then go back and reread what you all wrote about us. How accurate was my call about the agressive language THC abusers use to attack any one who dares suggest that indoor hydro is anything other than the finest most amazing substance ever"?

 

Earlier I pointed out that we have thousands of visitors per month so that you would understand that lots of people have come into the hempbar, smoked nimbin grown out door caanabis and thereby gaining a glimpse of what we are on about in our mission statement and lots of thousands of people have not been offended by our mission statement in the meantime.

 

A while ago I tried to illustrate the point that cannabis law reform had disappeared by asking "when was the last time "you" - and thats each of you individually - saw a poster, hung up a poster or attended/organized a pot law rally?"

 

No replies yet....

 

So now I wonder how much you sell your homegrown to your mates and their mates for?

 

Do you sell it at market value, sell it half price or do you give it away?

 

Answer me these questions honestly please.

 

and lastly for this post...

 

Sure parts of our website can be better worded, but, they ain't yet. The mission statement is 6 plus years old, it gets edited rarely, which is why we are happy with how its evolved lately and that was why I thanked pipeman for alerting us to the fact. No sarcasm intended.

 

till next

 

peace

 

;O)--~

Edited August 21, 2006 by BigBong.org

[SukonmiSkunk]

I grow for purely personal use.. as with MOST growers.. not all.. I agree... but I can only smoke about half of what I grow.. so my closemates , who would be buying anyway, get considerably better deals that the norm...

 

It goes for market price and people are happy to pay that.. but I always chuck in a bit extra... ounces are $200 mostly all year round....and thats pretty cheap....

 

the thing is.. and nearly every grower would agree with your stance on organics.. I do agree... but hydro can be just as good if not better when grown with care... most comercially grown bush weed has a shit load more chems than any of my hydro.. you cant flush bush crops...

 

if it was legal and us personal growers could legally grow, this would take the money value away from the weed... I am sure nearly every grower would change back to ourdoor methods using organics... but when people jump your fence and dob you in to cops, this forces the little guy indoors to protect what little he grows... the cops seem to pick on the little guys over the big guys....

 

what I would love to see from you guys is a few threads on organics... this would help emensely...

 

stop dissing the way people grow.. its really down to choice...and circumstance.... lets stand as one, not devided... segregation doesnt help any one...

 

lastly.. next time your in this neck of the woods drop in for a session... youll be surprised... every grower I know thats said these things about hydro have a cone of my hydro.. and think its organic... becuase its so clean...and tasty... I do use about 60% organic nutrients.. I have worm farms....

 

heres a few picks of my ORGANIC hydroponics....

 

http://www.bubblebag.com/phpBB2/files/thumbs/t_58dayssamplecutbudpic8_172.jpg

 

and some close ups....

 

http://www.bubblebag.com/phpBB2/files/thumbs/t_58dayssamplecutbudpic10_274.jpg

 

http://www.bubblebag.com/phpBB2/files/thumbs/t_58dayssamplecutbudpic9_307.jpg

 

you can almost smell the flavour....

[pipeman]

bigbong wrote:

 

I try not to answer anyone 'specifically'

 

yes, because you can't. Specific posters have specifically pointed out many specific facts which you have specifically ignored. To be more specific, you simply can't debate this topic on the facts, because you have no facts on your side. Thats why you can't be specific, because if you were, you'd be forced to face your false logic. So instead, you try and divert attention away from your lack of facts by turning it around on us with comments that don't relate to what is being debated in this thread at all. For example...

 

A while ago I tried to illustrate the point that cannabis law reform had disappeared by asking "when was the last time "you" - and thats each of you individually - saw a poster, hung up a poster or attended/organized a pot law rally?"

 

bigbong even if you have put more effort into activism than all OS members put together, thats still irrelavent to this debate. Start a new thread on this topic if you like to point out how most of us don't do anything for law reform. You won't find me disagreeing with you on that point.

 

How accurate was my call about the agressive language THC abusers use to attack any one who dares suggest that indoor hydro is anything other than the finest most amazing substance ever"?

 

completely inaccurate actually. You are the one doing all the attacking mate. You are attacking the plant you are fighting to legalise and you are attacking/disregarding your fellow stoners just because they grow indoors.

 

Earlier I pointed out that we have thousands of visitors per month so that you would understand that lots of people have come into the hempbar, smoked nimbin grown out door caanabis and thereby gaining a glimpse of what we are on about in our mission statement and lots of thousands of people have not been offended by our mission statement in the meantime.

 

Most people are ignorant, obviously. Which is why we have anti cannabis laws in the first place. Hell, even the most high profile pot activists in Australia lack some very basic knowledge about the very plant they are fighting to legalise.

 

and bigbong please don't get on your high horse about people selling pot.

 

The fact is from my own personal experience in the hemp bar that mission statement is not taken seriously anyway. I've smoked hydro in there many times, seen a dog in there at least twice, and the commercialism of the hemp bar cannot be denied with many items of various nature available for purchase...

 

and again, I ask you what has your activism achieved? even in your home town? Man when I walk into Nimbin these days I don't feel free at all. I feel like I'm walking into a private security compound. Cameras in the streets, cops on regular patrols with sniffer dogs. You have/will isolate yourself from a very large proportion of Aussie stoners with your stance against hydro, which in the end will make your efforts even more futile than they already are.

[stonedstump]

I would point out that no matter what we say, the HEMPBar crew have been constantly criticized and insulted from the start of this thread, I would point out that I added my first post at #27. go back and reread my first post, and then go back and reread what you all wrote about us. How accurate was my call about the agressive language THC abusers use to attack any one who dares suggest that indoor hydro is anything other than the finest most amazing substance ever"?

 

Why don't YOU go back and actually read for the first time, all of our handwritten replies to you and the hembar crew, each reply detailing all the points you have wrong on your site. (the whole thing that is)

 

We are basing our argument on solid fact, not some old hippies tales about killer hydro and conspriacies.

 

Earlier I pointed out that we have thousands of visitors per month so that you would understand that lots of people have come into the hempbar, smoked nimbin grown out door caanabis and thereby gaining a glimpse of what we are on about in our mission statement and lots of thousands of people have not been offended by our mission statement in the meantime.

 

They probably just couldn't be bothered saying anything to you (it makes me wonder why I'm typing this now actually) 'you can't teach an old dog new tricks'.

 

A while ago I tried to illustrate the point that cannabis law reform had disappeared by asking "when was the last time "you" - and thats each of you individually - saw a poster, hung up a poster or attended/organized a pot law rally?"

 

As someone else has already said, if you guys are at the front line of cannabis law reform, then god help us all. We are doing our bit by supplying friends and family with the magical herb and spreading the word about it (THE TRUTH). Not a biased opinion based on propaganda and conspiracy theories.

 

No replies yet....

 

So now I wonder how much you sell your homegrown to your mates and their mates for?

 

Do you sell it at market value, sell it half price or do you give it away?

 

Answer me these questions honestly please.

 

I don't sell weed but when I start my next grow I will be selling it for probably $250 per ounce. What does selling it have anything to do with the matter?

 

Are you trying to oppress people so much that they cannot grow indoors and cannot sell it either?

 

and lastly for this post...

 

Sure parts of our website can be better worded, but, they ain't yet. The mission statement is 6 plus years old, it gets edited rarely, which is why we are happy with how its evolved lately and that was why I thanked pipeman for alerting us to the fact. No sarcasm intended.

 

till next

 

peace

 

;O)--~

 

Better worded does not even come into it, as has been said many times.

 

You need to simply remove the whole entire paragraph about hydroponically cultivated cannabis. And the rest of the lies about cannabis indica, hydroponic stores, light bulbs etc.. It's really quite ridciulous when you read it.

 

...I'm going to have sex with a robot now I think.... HAHA what a joke.

 

 

 

Pipeman beat me to it. Could not of said it better myself pipeman

Edited August 21, 2006 by stonedstump

[dsyfer]

Perhaps Nimbin needs a "Cannabis Bar", where people are not discriminated against by the colour of their nutes?

[Luke Skywalker]

*taps fingers waiting for the obviously astonishing secret to be revealed about "hydro conspiracy"*

 

This is just degenerating. You won't answer our points and won't accept that what you're doing is causing more harm than good to the community of stoners. The reason you don't get listened to is you're too busy trying to make your message pure for those in power. There is no way to make it pure enough for them, so why try? Just argue the facts.

[EntyMan]

"This is just degenerating." Luke Skywalker

 

Yup. I vote we lock this thread.