the nimbin hemp bar

[pipeman]

I did it for years in Tasmania due to the short summer period. You start them off in hydro to get the growth speed then transplant them into the prepared ground outside removing as much of the hydro media as possible (perlite in my case) and stand back.

 

The larger plants are Bubblegum, started in hydro and transplanted outdoors at around 12" high, the smaller pots to the left were the start of a mates bush crop which got ripped off not long before harvest.

 

 

haha well then I definitely stand by my original statement

 

PS - what plants? were you going to attach a pic?

Edited August 13, 2006 by pipeman

[SukonmiSkunk]

"We are NOT referring to Commercial / Blackmarket Indoor hydroponic cannabis, that has been scientifically/selectively bred to produce as much THC as possible in the shortest amount of time. "

 

if you had any idea you would know most of the comercial pot grown in this country IS outdoor bush pot... IT'S CRAP.. thats why people choose to grow thier own...

 

are you growing enough for every one.. NO... people that grow thier own choose to grow indoors becuase of the laws.. and people ripping crops.. even bringing the op indoors isnt safe any more... but at least people get to smoke thier wares.. instead of having thier prize girl taken from the garden the night before they were going to pick it...

 

the state ment you make here seems that all indoor pot is comercial.. and its just not the case... most indoor growers.. not all ... most grow with maybe 1-2 lights... and maybe yield a pound or so per grow...and as you know between a few mates it doesnt last long... certainly not another 3-4 months...

 

the argument every pot grower should be putting accross.. bushies or indoories.. is the personal use path...we need to support each other not stand devided...meening if you get caught with a warehouse or a PADDOCK full of plants.. then yes you should be busted.. but for the police to raid and destroy my house for 2 little hydro plants in my wardrobe is rediculas... even you would have to agree with that...

 

and in any case theres nothing stopping you from taking one of these so called "scientifically" designed strains and grow it outdoors in organics.. a lot people do..

 

also what this statement implies is that if you dont live in the country and have access to vast amounts of scrub then you cant grow...there fore your not aloud to enjoy the herb... what about people who live in flats.. and apartment blocks... a wardrobe setup sometimes is just the only way.... or support the commercial growers

and ive stated this before.. theres nothing wrong with using organic nutrients in a hydroponic system.. these days there is a great selection of all sorts of organic hydro nutrients.. look at fox farms range... google "Bushyoldergrower"... he IS the INDOOR ORGANIC master.. his claim to fame is the fantastic "bogglegum" strain...he has a geat book out too.. you might be interested in.. its hard to find he only put out a few thousand copies.. but if you can track it down its unreal read

he aint a scientist mate just a great breeder...with a great taste for detail..selectively breed yes.. scientifically breed???.. NO.... everyone selectively breeds mate... theres no point pollinating a crap strain tha doesnt get you stoned with a great strain that does.. better to cross 2 great strains with each other.. yeah??...

 

I think what I am saying is yes we need to stamp out comercial pot.. but while it remains illegal there will always be people who cant grow and will have to buy.. is supply and demand mate.. and the comercial growers thrive on it... legalize it for personal use up to 10 flowering plants... indoors os out... then the comercial market would die in the ass and the personal market will take over... bringing the overall standard of pot to a better level...

SSkunk

[Budman2012]

 

I think that change to the HEMPBars statement is a good one and was the main thing that I think was getting people a little agitated for so many pages. Thx BigBong and the rest of The HEMPBar crew for taking our thoughts and information into account.

 

Heheh , I'm sure the whole thing shall be reviewed by at least a few members here , and no doubt someone will find something else "Wrong" with it. Hehehe , So keep in touch o.k.

 

Well ... it took 30 odd pages ... but we're gettin somewhere now aye.

 

Seeya in the next 30 ...

 

Budman ... Out. (Suprisingly satisfied ... 4 Now.)

[stonedstump]

Hey SukonmiSkunk, I FULLY agree with what you posted above.

 

Let me now add something of my own,

It seems you guys at the Nimbin hemp bar still haven't changed your statement to reflect reality (yes, the TRUTH). You still have mis-leading propaganda in there.

 

I just do not understand why you people can't have a neutral un-biased statement regarding cannabis on your site.

 

You continue to use weasel words in an attempt to fool people into believing lies and untrue 'facts' (mis-information) about cannabis which you have published on the HempBar website.

 

Here's a definition of what I'm talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words

 

Have a nice day.

[Tom]

haha well then I definitely stand by my original statement

 

PS - what plants? were you going to attach a pic?

Maybe you should try it yourself one day, here's the picture.

[pipeman]

believe me if I had a backyard that wasn't in plain view of a few hundred people's windows I would

[BigBong.org]

webgreetings.

 

Implications abound, weasel strategy 1. kick 'em in the balls and then criticize the way they walk....

 

why it it impossible to grow openly in the cities?

 

lots of opinions exist, I'm sure..

 

I do know that when I first met up with the Nimbin Help End Marijuana Prohibiton movement in 1996 there was heaps of support 'australia wide' and in the media for cannabis law reform, we came very close to changing the law several times 'pre 911'.

 

Thing is, since the 911 and the tightening of security, increase of sniffer dogs etc, we have REALLY noticed that the support for all things cannabis and political in the capital cities has almost, if not entirely disappeared. The gays (good on them) were active in cannabis law reform until they got the current legislation, which is why we have medical marijuana in NSW for terminally ill people.

 

Point being, that grass root support has vanished in cities. - oh how i wish I wrong about this - Zero agitation in the streets for law change for either indoor or outdoor cannabis from any of the major cities for years, ask you self, when was the last time you saw (or stuck up) a poster in the street advertizing a pot law rally and/or how long is it since you attended or organized one?

 

Where has the "grass roots" support disappeared to?

 

Oneschool of thought is "disappeared indoors", another could be 'onto the internet', perhaps both, because everytime we go on the road to lobby the government, we find no evidence of the thousands of pot smokers and I would imagine that a substantial amount of money and time has been invested by a large amount of "POTential Activists" all of whom have locked themselves into to the 'lonely smoker syndrome of the indoor black market paradigm = playing cops and robbers in the cupboard until someone else changes the law.

 

running out of time.......

 

It has been interesting, whilst stating my veiws, to being accused of all of the flaws that I accused 'unrespected elders' of possessing when I was a childless anarchist in my twenties.

 

till next

 

peace

 

;O)--~

[pipeman]

bigbong,

 

maybe the loss of grass roots support from the cities is because you are only representing outdoor growers of your own kind and look down on indoor growers. I certainly feel no great motivation to support the HEMP Bar after this thread, because you are clearly not fighting on my behalf.

 

btw, there is no medicinal mj in NSW, and lemma is trying to make it one of the most oppressive states in Australia in terms of cannabis laws and punishments. I'd hardly hold it up as an example of successful activism. Not to mention the fact that a lot of these new laws are based around hydro paranoia which the HEMP Bar is only adding to.

 

came close to changing the laws you say? I'm starting to think you are seriously delusional.

[Budman2012]

 

I know what your sayin' Pipeman , can't say I disagree ... But ...

 

BigBong ... Your last Post should have been a New Topic Imo ... It hasn't much to do with the initial subject ...

Plus ... I would like you guyz to have another thread like that ... I understand If you dont wanna tho ...

Hehe , Might get a bit Hectic for ya aye ... , (not takin the piss btw.)

 

Bye 4 Now All ...

Budman ... Out. (Supports MJ)

[pipeman]

Jess I understand what you are saying about computer paranoia. After lthe US DEA moved on OVERSEAS cannabis sites I feel it is only a matter of time before the Australian authorities apply the same tactics, as we seem to follow in their footsteps. OS is hosted in the US, and at the moment the site isn't breaking any laws, but legislation could very easily be passed to make internet sites educating people on how to conduct illegal activities, well, illegal. Remember we have no freedom of speech laws in Australia and in some states there are already laws making printed information on cannabis cultivation illegal and punishable by jail time, so its only a matter of time before this is extended to the internet IMO.