Thx Granny... Compliments are ALWAYS welcome. 28w? I wish I could get them locally. These are the biggest "household" fluros I've seen so I grabbed em. I'll look around a bit harder next time & I just noticed Kryties comment ya can get em in 6400k too! Ty Kryties. I've been peeking in on your grow. I'm at about 3 1/2wks too & just starting that sweet sweet smell. I can't get the light down into her because 1-she fills up the room & 2-she's pretty tight. Suggestions on how maybe it could be done? I run the lights no more than 3" above her at all times. She has got to within about 1/2" a few times but that was a bit too close for the GL fluros. & about the fans... Ilky not long posted me the pc fan idea in my grow diary. it's cheap hehe, it's easy to set up & it's compact. Not 1 pc fan... not 2 pc fans... BUT 3 PC FANS! lmao anyway it's all in there. Anyways I'll sketch something up & give yas a look see. Thx again guys.