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And that's Breeding canna genetics for you. The history behind strains, eg: parts of the world there from. etc, etc.

That if places like Fast buds as example, can totally fuck it up from time to time... You see for yourself, not all plants are the same, smells and types, etc, etc.. but it fun, pheno huntering

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That's not exactly true SE,
Most commercial seed breeders use a photo clone and an auto male to create a new line and then work them to F4 and self a healthy population before release
Further batches of seed can be backcrossed to produce a consistent new batch of seeds, this is viable for approx 4 years if done correctly
You are correct though, consistency does vary as even the best autos tend to vary more than a stable photoperiod.
Not all photo breeders are working with mothers and elite clones either!
A lot of it has to do with the breeders QA, somthing that we as consumers often see when the breeder/seedbank gets it wrong
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Those " further " batches backcrossed with a different auto male than the original just shows it isn't the same ,,similar sure.
But I'd doubt very much that the same cannabinoid profile will magically reappear again.
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They don't use a new male, the further batches are selfed from the original batch of commercial seeds.



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Fucken troll.

Doesn’t warrant response any more.
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Change terpenes stuctutre also

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[quote name="puggle6" post="626575" timestamp="1557118307"]They don't use a new male, the further batches are selfed from the original batch of commercial seeds.
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So before it was backcrossing now it's selfing ...

Sure.
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[quote name="Serrated edge" post="626581" timestamp="1557119056"][quote name="puggle6" post="626575" timestamp="1557118307"]They don't use a new male, the further batches are selfed from the original batch of commercial seeds.
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So before it was backcrossing now it's selfing ...

Sure.[/quote]Both, if you bothered to read what I was saying.

Elite clone X auto male = new cross

New cross taken to F4 by using male fast and autos from the progeny to the fast and auto females over 4 generations to get full auto back.. that's back crossing

Then test and isolate phenotypes and self them for commercial release

Need more seeds, self the commercial seed stock

Simple, but easy to fuck up

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[quote name="Serrated edge" post="626581" timestamp="1557119056"][quote name="puggle6" post="626575" timestamp="1557118307"]They don't use a new male, the further batches are selfed from the original batch of commercial seeds.
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So before it was backcrossing now it's selfing ...

Sure.[/quote]Selfing and backcrossing

https://www.softsecr...ossing-selfing/


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Didn't intend on some debate ,,the guy seems to need help, and I advised him on the inconsistency of autos .


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All good man, didn't mean to come off sharp edged.

There is a lot of misinformation about commercial breeding, not just autos and many breeders are nothing more than greedy pollen chuckers

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