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Background
At the age of 12 my lower back was broken and my spinal cord injured. As a result I've been in a wheelchair ever since. The lower back pain is tolerable and I could live with synthetics for the most part if that were the only problem.

I had a through the knee amputation on my left leg about 5 years ago now and the docs bungled it while doing it. They damaged the nerve that runs down the inside of the leg and wraps around the knee. That causes me pretty much constant pain.

Medication
Currently taking about six Tramal 100SR, four Tramal 50, twelve Neurontin 600, two Endep 10, and four Panadine 500/8's a day. When this doesn't cut the pain I'll take as many as four more Tramal 100SR's and four more Tramal 50's. That's 28 pills on a good day and as many as 36 on a bad day.

The Tramal (both kinds) and the Neurontin are diaretics. About an hour after I take them there's a terrible rush to get to any toilet where I can relieve my aching bladder. The effects of taking too much Paracetamal are well known and the Codine in the Panadine binds my stomach up something terrible.

The Experiment
The times when a new season is coming on are the worst. A transition from Spring to Summer and Fall to Winter with the extreme changes in barametric pressure have me in absolute agony right now if I'm not taking my painkillers. Even taking the entire dose I still have breakthrough pain. Have talked to Pain Management Specialist and am told there's really not a lot they can do for me except to continue trying different dosages of a combination of painkillers until we hit a combination that works.

Enter that wonderful, god-given, miracle herb. For the last three evenings I've loaded up my new bong with a bit of water in the bottom to cool the smoke and as much leaf as I can pack into the bowl and I've smoked till there's nothing left in the bowl.

For the last two evenings I've been able to skip my second lot of evening painkillers (4 Neurontin, 2 Tramal 100SR) because after about half a dozen bong hits (I need a bigger bowl) I'm feeling no pain.

The Only Problem
I mentioned with the painkillers I'm on I've gotta run to take a piss after about an hour and am in and out of the bathroom three or four more times in the course of a few hours. Way too much compared to when I wasn't taking them.

The mj doesn't make me wanna piss but there are a few "side effects" which I am enjoying.

Time Dialation is the first one. Time seems to really stretch out. It takes forever to do anything. It feels like I've been typing this for an hour even though I know it's been no more than five minutes.

Thinking I'm actually talking is the second. I'll be watching TV and be sure I said something to my wife about the current program, I ask her what she thinks about whatever I was sure I was talking about and I found out I've only been thinking what I thought I was verbalizing. This may be just the wife messing with me while I'm stoned but I tend to think it's legit.

Third would be the pressure around my head. It feels as though someone has stuck my head in a giant vise and is pressure just enough to hold it firmly. This isn't a painful or unpleasant feeling. It's kinda comfortable in a way.

Conclusion at this time
The benefits at this time of smoking far outweigh the "negative" effects, at least in how I'm effected. I'm able to cut six to fourteen of my daily drugs out with half a dozen bong hits and this is still with shitty leaf. I can't wait to see how much better it workd once I get some good buds. That happens tomorrow. I'll update more later.
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wow your an amazing person, I can just sense your inner strengths. :thumbsup

The main cause of the head pressure would be two fold,
firstly the leaf can do that, and is why I only ever smoke the buds.
and they also probably wernt flushed and your getting a chemical high as well as the high from the leaf.
You would probably be better off making some cakes to eat with the leaf.

The time thing is something that normally doesnt stick around long, I used to love that feeling.but havent had it for years.

Thinking I'm actually talking is the second. I'll be watching TV and be sure I said something to my wife about the current program, I ask her what she thinks about whatever I was sure I was talking about and I found out I've only been thinking what I thought I was verbalizing. This may be just the wife messing with me while I'm stoned but I tend to think it's legit.


:D I think we all do that from time to time, its like well "friggin answer me", "answer what you didnt say anything" :P

Are you starting to grow your own?? if not im sure we can all help to get you going. theres alot of people on here with alot of different systems.
Im sure we could find an easy one for you to work on.
Possibly a flood and drain table would suit? something off the ground that you can access easily.

Anyways its a pleasure to have you on board and I hope we can help yopu out somehow.

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great to hear that things are starting to look up for ya after all that shit that has gone wrong :thumbsup

The benefits at this time of smoking far outweigh the "negative" effects, at least in how I'm effected. I'm able to cut six to fourteen of my daily drugs out with half a dozen bong hits and this is still with shitty leaf. I can't wait to see how much better it workd once I get some good buds. That happens tomorrow. I'll update more later.


never under estimate the power of leaf ;) im know buds will fix u right up, if not you'll end up too stoned to give a fuck :thumbsup anyways i suffer from sore joints, lower back pain, etc, etc. and have found that indica dominate strains do the trick for me :smoke being as though most hydro grown gear is indica dominate its great for me :D just when i get some gear that hasnt been flushed i can get killer headaches that wont go away untill i sleep :thumbdown

so i have bought myself a hydro setup, ordered 2x afghani #1 and 2x g13 clones (both are pure indica strain) and cant wait untill harvest :reallyexcited: i will finally have great quality buds that are fully flushed and perfect for getting rid of any pain i suffer :thumbsup if u intended on doing the same im quite sure there are a few people on these forums that would be more than willing to donate a few seeds/clones or u could always go to Treating Yourself ... Marco (the owner) suffers from hep c (i think) and has started that page to raise awareness about the medicinal qualities of mj and to also supply those people who could use the herb as a medication with quality genetics that are suited for helping the user....orders are sent from canada in basic packaging but customs have never picked up any order that i have heard about and have even put their own stickers on the package saying it contained garden seeds :P

anyways keep us posted as im very interested in hearing how buds treat ya :B):
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great to hear that things are starting to look up for ya after all that shit that has gone wrong  :thumbsup


Yeah, things are really looking up. Because of my cronic pain I've had to close a business I've run for the last six years. I was bummed out about that. With all the painkillers I've not been able to concentrate on the detail I need to to do the graphic design work that's paid my bills for the last six years. That had been really hurting my business since I was losing customers. I've got things all set up with the disability pension. It's tough to swallow my pride and actually go on it but I've gotta provide for the wife and myself.

never under estimate the power of leaf  :P  im know buds will fix u right up, if not you'll end up too stoned to give a fuck  :thumbsup  anyways i suffer from sore joints, lower back pain, etc, etc. and have found that indica dominate strains do the trick for me  :smoke being as though most hydro grown gear is indica dominate its great for me :D just when i get some gear that hasnt been flushed i can get killer headaches that wont go away untill i sleep  :thumbdown


At this point I've really been trying to use the mj more as something to both supplement my prescribed painkillers and to hopefully help me take less synthetic stuff. Just the leaf is really helping and I had six very nice looking (and smelling) buds delivered yesterday. When my pain reaches the point where I can't handle it I'll enjoy half of one to see how much it helps.

so i have bought myself a hydro setup, ordered 2x afghani #1 and 2x g13 clones (both are pure indica strain) and cant wait untill harvest  :reallyexcited:  i will finally have great quality buds that are fully flushed and perfect for getting rid of any pain i suffer  :thumbsup  if u intended on doing the same im quite sure there are a few people on these forums that would be more than willing to donate a few seeds/clones or u could always go to Treating Yourself ... Marco (the owner) suffers from hep c (i think) and has started that page to raise awareness about the medicinal qualities of mj and to also supply those people who could use the herb as a medication with quality genetics that are suited for helping the user....orders are sent from canada in basic packaging but customs have never picked up any order that i have heard about and have even put their own stickers on the package saying it contained garden seeds  ;)

anyways keep us posted as im very interested in hearing how buds treat ya  :B):

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As someone using for purely medicinal reasons I'd love to get a couple of plants going. Using either hydro (which I know nothing about) or potting them would both be fine but as I understand it growing mj here in the Aussie (especially Perth) soil is quite different than growing it where I'm originially from (pacific northwest of the US). I'd prefer to get in touch with somone local to help me throught the rough spots to make sure my time and the plants aren't wasted. So if anyone from the Perth area wants to PM me to help me out I'd really appreciate it.
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there are quite a few people here from WA ::D:

i would look over these forums, there is everything u could ever want/need to know about growing and its the growers sharing their experiences :thumbsup

i would also checkout the seed/clone bank thread as u will find out valuble information about seed/clone suppliers (especially the ones in australia) and im pretty sure that about 1/2 of the suppliers give great discounts to those who need pot for medicinal use B) i know that AussieSPC was giving 50% discount to med patients but i dunno if thats still running or not...

also considering ur on the DSP and have very limited funds, you will have to decide wether investing in a lighting system, ventilation, etc so u can grow indoors will be the way to go or to grow outdoors....
now sadly planting outside these days is getting harder and harder with thiefs being the main problem then police :thumbdown while growing hydroponically indoors still has its risks, it is no where near the level of growing outdoors totally sucks ass cuz there is nothing better than walking upto a 20ft monster covered in buds the size of your legs :P

instead of paying like $300 for a 400watt hps lighting system, u can pickup the exact same kind of systems from $80-$130 from pawn shops :thumbsup sure they are second hand and all but they do work and will save u a major amount of money that u can put towards other things :thumbsup

i would donate seeds to the cause but i dont have enough spare at the moment :thumbdown although if u just want seeds in general i have like 1500 local sativa seeds in the fridge and wouldnt have a problem with sending u 100 or so just to help out :smoke got some awesome strains, just not enough seeds of each to go around ;)
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Well, I've had bud a few night the past week. I can't believe how good this stuff is for the pain I experience.

There's the fact that because of the short term memory being messed with even if I actually experience a severe cramp I don't remember it 30 seconds later. There's also a lot of analgesic relief in that the knee joint doesn't ache after about 20 to 25 minutes. This relief lasts for several hours.

The thing I wasn't expecting is how well I sleep after having a bowl. I've slept better this week than for the last six months. Even taking all the synthetics most nights I go to bed and it takes me an hour or two to get to sleep because of continual small muscle cramps and nerve pains. With the mj I'm out almost as soon as my head hits the pillow.

Mark me down as a believer. And thanks to the people who've contacted me in private with offers to help. I appreciate it.
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fucking knew the bud would treat ya kindly :shy:

glad to hear that things are looking positive and i think that your story would make a great story for the news :thumbsup would be educational, informative and hopefully get u $5 grams deals from the government ::shy:: that shits meant to be pretty good too average of 10% thc (i gotta call bullshit with that :scratchin the government ordered it for christ sake :peace: but it is from BC canada :thumbsup ) and the buds i saw on tv ages back looked all yummy and goldern *drools*

well i wish ya the best of luck and i hope mj keeps treating you as good as it has :smoke
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Been enjoying bud for about a week now. The pain I usually experience of an evening is about 6-8 on a scale of 1-10. Sometimes it bounces up to 10 but rarely stays there.

After smoking as little as half a bowl I'm literally pain free after about 25 minutes. The pain relief lasts for about 5-7 hours with it rarely getting above about 2 on the 1-10 scale. I know I could experience either longer or deeper relief by smoking more but I've actually been trying to achieve the pain relief without the mindfuck. It's not that I don't enjoy the mental effects but since I'm smoking mainly for pain relief and do need to concentrate I can do without it.

Nothing against those who smoke just for the recreational effects.
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Do you notice any medical differences between leaf and bud??
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I know I could experience either longer or deeper relief by smoking more but I've actually been trying to achieve the pain relief without the mindfuck.

Try a Sativa dominant strain, it has a more uplifting high that lets you get on with the things that need to be done whereas the Indica stone makes you very lethargic.

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