Taking clones from clones... opinions please.

[bufo marinus]

Genetic Drift was a term being thrown around last time this was discussed but nobody has seen their clones 'drift geneticly'

[itchybromusic]

maybe the term genetic drift is not an accurate term for what's happening to a clone that seems diff 

months or years after the original donor has gone 

 

there is a vid with the guy from wonderland nursery who talks about a cut that everybody has had probs 

with , taking cuts & what not , only getting 1 or 2 to stick out of a large number of cuts taken , once the plant 

was moved into a probiotic system that completely changed to lots of cuts rooting 

 

so to say the health of a donor mother is important would be an understatement 

https://youtu.be/xpopShfmyrY

[itchybromusic]

Yeah was 24/0 under the blurple for a month or 2. Might be whats done it, see how she goes.

yeah that be it i reckon 

 

i've found an adult indica will go into flower with 14:30 hours of daylight 

sativas need to get closer to 12-13 hours of daylight b4 flowering 

[bufo marinus]

maybe the term genetic drift is not an accurate term for what's happening to a clone that seems diff 

months or years after the original donor has gone 

 

there is a vid with the guy from wonderland nursery who talks about a cut that everybody has had probs 

with , taking cuts & what not , only getting 1 or 2 to stick out of a large number of cuts taken , once the plant 

was moved into a probiotic system that completely changed to lots of cuts rooting 

 

so to say the health of a donor mother is important would be an understatement 

https://youtu.be/xpopShfmyrY

 

I watched that and felt he was doing a lot of arse talking = talking out his arse

A healthy rhyzotonic root system works, no doubt, look how well coco goes once the healthy bacteria have a chance to colonise the root zone... but that fails to explain why plants remain healthy and can be successfully cloned in a sterile system ie using HySan for instance in a deep water grow.

I know I'm missing something in his explanation but I doubt that guy has the answers.

Taking clones has as much to do with water loss, temperature, humidity, oxygenation around the stem plus plus and yeah a healthy mother will help but it's not the only factor that needs attention.

Looks like just another sales gimmick to me??

[billygoat]

Agree Bufo, sales spiel.

 

That bloke wants to make some money from his idea.  And hell maybe it would work on certain strains, under certain conditions.....

 

But why over complicate the process.  Growing enough weed for personal use is really easy.

[itchybromusic]

arse talkin = is he lying bout something ?

 

what's he selling ?

or maybe a better question 

what exactly aren't you buying ?

[bufo marinus]

Well I thought I explained it? billy goat agreed... 

What is the appeal regarding his very ordinary planter boxes is maybe a better question as I saw nothing startling.

[bufo marinus]

Ok I had another look and it's an ordinary planter box with a new nutrient concoction that grows mycelium in 'symbiosis' with the plant to make it super duper... and 3 hillbillies talking out their arse's... asse's? 

Yawn... legalising weed was always going to bring these types out of the woodwork  

Edited October 12, 2018 by bufo marinus

[itchybromusic]

maybe just me but sounds like picking / shitting on something for the sake of it , but hey that's cool if that's ya thing bro 

 

all the best bufo & good growing to ya 

[bufo marinus]

In all honesty that may be correct although I wasn't purposely trying to be an ass. My apologies if that is the case and good growing to you sir.

Maybe they are onto something and it does give the plant a healthier start with cloning? Similar to when the healthy bacteria have colonised coco, a healthy rhyzosphere/root zone develops and the plants seem to thrive once it's established.

The mycelium mat was interesting too. Paul Stammets has some very interesting stuff online regarding mycelium so maybe yeah.

I was mainly skeptical of his 1 in 700 successful clone comments, how he had the rare cuttings and how he was involved in the trials blah blah blah.