Father faces jail for medicating his daughters with cannabis juice

[merl1n]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-07/father-faces-jail-for-medicating-daughters-with-cannabis-juice/9523898

 

Royal Australasian College of Physician, Adrian Reynolds, urged caution about making access too easy.

"I would not want to see the floodgates being opened before we have much more robust evidence around the benefits, risks and harms associated with the cannabinoids," he told 7.30."

 

​"...urged caution about making access TOO EASY!!!!" For Christ sake I doubt they could make it any more difficult or convoluted to gain access. Presently it's easier to obtain 'Hillbilly heroin" (Endone) than it is to get canna legally. 

​So I ask you, whose the criminal, the father for assisting his daughters or the govt for restricting a medication that may assist them????

[greenqueen2]

this is just disgusting, to think he may go to jail for trying to treat his daughters disease with a plant that is completely harmless makes me sick to my core, my family is in the exact same position, we have medical needs but the medical professionals have failed us repeatedly for years, cannabis has been nothing short of a miracle in regards to treating my daughter's epilepsy as well as my husband's cancer and rehabilitation not to mention the relief it gives me with my numerous problems but i have to say im so bloody over living in fear of the law, the only way out is if cannabis is legalized, its the only way, parents and families deserve the right to medicate them selves and there families as they see fit with the harmless plant we all know and love, we have to keep pushing for full legalization, more protests, more publicity and more educating so people just like this man who is facing jail and hefty fines can live peacefuly and healthily without fear, i really feel for this family and countless others in this situation, my heart goes out to them and hopefully the judge see,s this for what it is to,,,GQ

 

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[merl1n]

Hey GQ,

              What is needed is a change in paradigm from the dope smoking hippie to a medical need. As I've said previously heroin is illegal but give it another name and use it for a medical reason and not recreational, then you can pick it up from your local chemist. We have the medical reasons for canna to be seen as a medication, we just don't have any pollies with enough balls to make it accessible. It truly is disappointing.

 

Merl1n 

[greenqueen2]

yep it really is disappointing merlin, especially the fact that most are unaware that when it does become accessible via the doctors and specialists it will be unaffordable for most aussie battlers, it gets me thinking what can i do to help make a difference and i think it starts with educating the non cannabis population, i dont do facebook much but i been thinking about how i could use facebook as a starting point to get the facts out to friends and family as a starting point and hopefully its spreads out to others from there, im sick too death of being looked down upon, feeling ashamed, feeling like a criminal and having to hide our use of cannabis, im SO over it, but will it make a difference or just incriminate myself?

 

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[cardrona]

Yet I can buy coca cola or Mcdonalds or GM saturated canola or corn syrup laced food or blow my families wage away on the pokies or buy government sanctioned cancer sticks,

Watch the world get hoodwinked into unjustified wars ...

But yet as a father I cant make a decision on the welfare of care of my own daughter .

 

Tell me I am free again please.

Edited March 7, 2018 by cardrona

[Indycar]

Problem is, as soon as you use the excuse your growing and processing it to medicate your child. DoC's get a call, you end up in more shit, and risk having your family torn apart by the Government.

 

Those parents that think they're going to use that as a reason if you ever go down for growing, I'd suggest you put that game plan up for re-evaluation again. Probably better off taking the fall yourself and not whisper a word of it.

 

Sorry, didn't read the article. Some of this may have already been mentioned in it.

[merl1n]

I have to agree with Indy.

Even with a legitimate reason for your need, the perception will always be one of negativity 

The best of intentions are not always viewed positively 

You can be sure of one thing mention drugs and children officially and DoC's will be notified, don't do it. The headfucks are not worth it.

I had an issue with DoC's 25yrs ago as part of my employment, the results of which were BAD. It still follows me today. I  now avoid them at all costs.

[greenqueen2]

yep point taken and has sunk in good and proper, i guess lucky for me and hubby in a round about kinda way we have our own medical legit and current reasons for doing what we do so that will definitely be the path we go down if worst comes to worst, ive never had personal experience with docs but i know plenty that have and that is something i never want to have to deal with, i would not cope at all if my children were to be taken away from me, i live for them, so thanks for the heads up, just look at what happened to little chase and his family, its nothing but a fuckin disgrace what docs and cops have done to that young family its just appalling and just one of many similar cases i would imagine, when will it stop?, what will it take? these are questions i ask myself daily, we need solutions

 

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[Indycar]

For sure, go your own medical route with it if it ever came to that, Hopefully it'll never be a issue though.

 

The fucked thing about DoCS's past history, is they usually screw over the the parents doing the right thing, and parents who are below dog shit escape under the radar until some serious or fatal harm has come to the child/children.

 

EDIT: It's pretty obvious your kids mean the world to you, GQ. I think they're pretty fortunate kids for it.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Indycar

[merl1n]

Hey GQ,

              We have a system where 'people from up high' think they know what's best and they make laws to force others into there way of thinking. The 'sheep' of the population follow those rules/laws unquestioningly. It's not until they are faced with a situation where those rules conflict with their own reality that they question the status quo. Some people are lucky enough to never have a need to question, but for those of us who do we often make ourselves a target for the establishment to attack.

As I've stated before I worked in community services and I got to see many situations where (To put it mildly) the law was an ass. The laws are there to cover the general population, but when individual circumstances conflict with the law there is no flexibility. The laws are black and white. As a worker I was covered by a law known as 'mandatory reporting' where if Johnny told me he was breaking the law in some way then I was obligated by law to report it. By me not reporting it I was then in breach of that law. So for example if young Johnny was to tell me he had epilepsy and his Dad gave him canna to assist him, by law I had to report it because canna is illegal. By his father giving it to him that is seen as child endangerment by the law. To get around this I would tell Johnny to put it into the third person ie "I have a friend who..... " If it's '...a friend who...' then as a worker I have no victim nor a perpetrator to report. As a worker this covers me from prosecution, covers Johnny and covers his father. This allowed Johnny to disclose his information without placing anyone at risk. This was a situation where information was about to be disclosed and I could halt  that disclosure before I was placed into a position of no return.

In another situation I personally saw a mother beating her son uncontrollably and excessively. Admittedly the son's behaviour was questionable, but in attempting to get the mother some assistance DoCS went into the situation like attack dogs and all hell broke loose. I ended up being the biggest arsehole that had ever roamed the earth, when all I was trying to do was assist the mother in managing her son's behaviour.

And this is the problem for workers, it's black and white. No grey. When in reality most situations have a tone of grey. I never made another 'mandatory report' again. If a situation arose again I passed it onto my manager. If the manager decided to report it, that was on them, not me.

My advise:

If you EVER have to disclose do so in the third person. Police, Dr's, nurses and community workers are all known as mandatory reporters. If they know, by law, they must report to DoCS. If they don't know, they can't report. 

[Auqadoll]

GQ i may be breaking the rules a bit but you do know most everyone here would try and help you make sure your daughter got what she needs. You help us all out. Kinda like a little community garden we all grow.