It’s on, never thought I would hear a politician speak these words.

[ooodog]

Thx Merl1n. It might pay to live out west soon. Here's hoping they get to what they really want. Ditch the all drugs and just make it legal already.

 

Fingers crossed.

 

 

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[billymcd]

The idea of legalising ALL DRUGS has been around for many years

The argument around criminals = drugs and/or drugs = criminals has been around just as long (if not longer)

The example that was used, of Portugal, illustrates that the proliferation of drugs DOES NOT equate to an explosion of crime, which is what some pollies want us to believe.

So again using the Portuguese example; if proliferation of all drugs didn't not cause a social meltdown, how can the simple legalisation of cannabis be of such a concern?

Common sense should tell us it won't.

But our Federal Liberal Govt wants to support big business and you can't get much bigger than BIG pharma. This govt will only support it if the big pharmas get first bite of the pie. You only have to look at the rules and regulations around the altered medical access to canna legislation put forward by Malcolm Turnbull. It all has to be pharma grade concoctions. No green vegetable matter.

It all stinks of politics, whilst those of us who need it NOW, are made into criminals by the law.

Do you know what exactly occurred in the US that paved the way for legalisation/decriminalisation? I agree 100% with what you’ve said, but surely big pharma have a similar (if not worse) hold over their lawmakers?

 

 

 

 

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[Brim]

Love how he chucks in that he doesn't approve of smoking a joint at the end there

Great idea for WA haha !

 

Don't think the LDP motion will go the way we all wish but

[merl1n]

Do you know what exactly occurred in the US that paved the way for legalisation/decriminalisation? I agree 100% with what you’ve said, but surely big pharma have a similar (if not worse) hold over their lawmakers?

 

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In very basic terms it seems it started in the U.S. under compassionate grounds for those who had a medicinal need and initially for HIV/AIDS cancer and glaucoma patients. Under Federal U.S. law canna is still considered to be Schedule 1 substance as per UNITED NATIONS SINGLE CONVENTION ON NARCOTIC DRUGS, 1961 and as such has 'no proven medical benefit'. The Single Convention places the same restrictions on cannabis cultivation that it does on opium cultivation. Australia is a signatory to the Single convention on narcotics.

 

In 1978 Robert Randall sued the U.S. federal government for arresting him for using cannabis to treat his glaucoma. The judge ruled Randall needed cannabis for medical purposes and required the Food and Drug Administration set up a program to grow cannabis on a farm at the University of Mississippi and to distribute 300 cannabis cigarettes a month to Randall. In 1992 George H. W. Bush discontinued the program after Randall tried to make HIV/AIDS patients eligible for the program. Thirteen people were already enrolled and were allowed to continue receiving cannabis cigarettes; today the government still ships cannabis cigarettes to four people. Irvin Rosenfeld, who became eligible to receive cannabis from the program in 1982 to treat rare bone tumors, urged the George W. Bush administration to reopen the program; however, he was unsuccessful.

 

Alaska, California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, and the District of Columbia are the only states where possession of up to one ounce is legal. "Citing the dangers of marijuana and the lack of clinical research supporting its medicinal value" the American Society of Addiction Medicine in March 2011 issued a white paper recommending a halt to using marijuana as a medicine in U.S. states where it has been declared legal.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States#The_Controlled_Substances_Act_(1970))

 

As I say this is the real basic info. Here's a link to a timeline of the U.S. cannabis law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_cannabis_laws_in_the_United_States

 

Merl1n

[walla_roo]

word. ^

[Bazza]

It will go nowhere. I don't get why they have to giggle and carry on about it. Pollies are just all a certain type of people that are arrogant in their ignorance. Fuck em and just keep growing it

[billymcd]

In very basic terms it seems it started in the U.S. under compassionate grounds for those who had a medicinal need and initially for HIV/AIDS cancer and glaucoma patients. Under Federal U.S. law canna is still considered to be Schedule 1 substance as per UNITED NATIONS SINGLE CONVENTION ON NARCOTIC DRUGS, 1961 and as such has 'no proven medical benefit'. The Single Convention places the same restrictions on cannabis cultivation that it does on opium cultivation. Australia is a signatory to the Single convention on narcotics.

 

In 1978 Robert Randall sued the U.S. federal government for arresting him for using cannabis to treat his glaucoma. The judge ruled Randall needed cannabis for medical purposes and required the Food and Drug Administration set up a program to grow cannabis on a farm at the University of Mississippi and to distribute 300 cannabis cigarettes a month to Randall. In 1992 George H. W. Bush discontinued the program after Randall tried to make HIV/AIDS patients eligible for the program. Thirteen people were already enrolled and were allowed to continue receiving cannabis cigarettes; today the government still ships cannabis cigarettes to four people. Irvin Rosenfeld, who became eligible to receive cannabis from the program in 1982 to treat rare bone tumors, urged the George W. Bush administration to reopen the program; however, he was unsuccessful.

 

Alaska, California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, and the District of Columbia are the only states where possession of up to one ounce is legal. "Citing the dangers of marijuana and the lack of clinical research supporting its medicinal value" the American Society of Addiction Medicine in March 2011 issued a white paper recommending a halt to using marijuana as a medicine in U.S. states where it has been declared legal.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States#The_Controlled_Substances_Act_(1970))

 

As I say this is the real basic info. Here's a link to a timeline of the U.S. cannabis law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_cannabis_laws_in_the_United_States

 

Merl1n

Wow. I know it’s pointless to feel like this, but it’s depressing/infuriating to read about evidence-based cases like that and the subsequent, nonsensical laws put in place to uphold a hidden/darker agenda. Particularly when it LITERALLY involves people’s lives. It’s not the first time I’ve heard stuff like that, but it never ceases to amaze me.

 

Really appreciate the comprehensive reply Merl1n

 

 

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[merl1n]

Really appreciate the comprehensive reply Merl1n

Ohh believe me that information is nowhere near comprehensive, there is absolutely screeds of information out there and although most of that is U.S. based you can see the changing attitudes in regard to canna over time. Part of the biggest problem for us here in Oz is the UN Convention that we've signed up to. The attitudes with in the UN haven't changed since 1961 when it was signed.

[billymcd]

“Order! Order! Do you kids want to be like the real UN, or do you just want to squabble and waste time?” - Principal Skinner

 

 

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[merl1n]

It's all political games. Our pollies election funds are funded by big business and their advocates.

Our federal govt has agreed to the UN conventions, but just like in the U.S. individual states can make their own laws.