GREENERY IMPROVES THE SCENERY

[greenqueen2]

No no noooo no escargot im all for being self sufficient but i think eating snails would be like eating someone else's big snotty booger ewwww yuck i think i might just leave em for chook cuisine

 

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[Inthewoods]

Smokeyblokey look up southern star seeds they are the easiest in my book

 

 

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Hey torrie. I'm trying the indica all stars right now. You tried any of those? Double Affie winning the race for me so far with Texas Guinan not far behind. Can't get Chung Lee to germinate tho

[Thirstyman88]

i'm currently growing in sip's , uses 2/3 less water but the plant is never out of water , impossible to over water

but if you tried to keep a soil that moist with watering from above , the plant would die , root rot

 

but watering from the bottom like an aquifer under a tree keeps it all good , then add the pro & prebiotics

& you have a nutrient dense final product to consume , honestly i think this is next level organics

 

& incredibly simple , kids could be taught this , fortnightly top dresses , weekly spray & a weekly steeped tea

that's it , no other requirement apart from whatever IPM you use but that's not a big prob either when plants

are this healthy

you got the perfect attitude to be a no till farmer

whats your preferred SIP design itchy?

[itchybromusic]

whats your preferred SIP design itchy?

as far as brought ones go 

 

i think the earthbox is better cos of the wicking positions 

only 2 & in each corner of the box on one side ,

 

makes it easy to check wicking points if you have a drying out prob 

also easier to repack the wick points with a plant growing in the box

 

the greensmart pot has it's wicking points down the middle of the box 

it's good cos there are 6 or 8 wick points , so if you lose one or 2 points 

shouldn't be to much of a prob 

the downside you really have no way of checking or repacking points with a plant growing in there box 

 

not that you loose the wicking points if you setup properly but you could if you 

powered water in the box at a rapped rate , might wash them out 

 

i have both & if setup right you should be laughing as far as wicking points go 

 

the plastic shower cap on the greensmart pot is not quite as good as the earthbox ,

the earthbox cap has elastic all way round it , the greensmart pot have it only

in the corners of the cap , blows up in the wind 

 

it sounds trivial but the cap is a big part of the way the system works , condensation builds

up on the underside of the cap & rains back down over the media keeping it moist along 

with moisture from wicks 

 

now this is important too , in an earthbox they show how to mound the soil under the cap 

the mound sits higher than the edge of the box , this is done for when it rains , it will force 

the rain water off the sides of the box & stop it from top watering , which is not good for sip growing 

 

there's a bunch of diy vids on sip making , the main thing i would think about if DIY'ing 

how high will it wick , my understanding you want a soil height between 8 & 11 inches 

 

keep in mind it's hard to buy earthboxes in oz , i have 4 & got them second hand here 

from the guy how was importing them , he still has the oz earthbox website up but no boxes 

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[Thirstyman88]

Yeah would love to just be able to buy the earthboxes. Have made a 2 x 20L bucket one for a tomato plant and am going to try some of the fabric wicking ones that Rob Bob does on YouTube. When the greensmart or earthbox are full are they impossible to move by yourself? Sorry to hijack the thread Greeny!

[itchybromusic]

i wouldn't say impossible to lift by yourself ,

you'd want to empty them first by tipping the box 

towards the drain hole 

 

from memory they hold around 40lts of soil & that soil will be wet 

so not lite if you want to quickly lift them 

 

they also need to sit pretty level which makes them a bit more permanent 

you can move them , the eathbox has built in wheels to make that easier 

greensmart pot don't have wheels 

that's cool man keep us updated on your DIY sip's 

[greenqueen2]

No problem thirsty im always interested in to hear about it all anyway mate

 

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[Inthewoods]

I was looking at those self watering pots in bunnings. Any chance they could be adapted? They seem to work the same way with wick points that the soil goes down into. I heard they are no good for cannabis but who knows. I've always liked the idea of watering from top to wash out any build up of salts and crap but I guess these sip things work different and don't need flushing

 

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[itchybromusic]

I was looking at those self watering pots in bunnings. Any chance they could be adapted? They seem to work the same way with wick points that the soil goes down into. I heard they are no good for cannabis but who knows. I've always liked the idea of watering from top to wash out any build up of salts and crap but I guess these sip things work different and don't need flushing

 

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hey inthewoods

no flushing with organics , you use plain water prob 50-60% of the time 

& for some 100% water only in a well run no till system 

 

sips takes watering plants out of your hands & gives the plant control over water/food when " it " wants it 

 

my job is to make a soilless media , top the water rez off each day with water & EM-1 , foliar spray EM once a week , make a non bubbled EM/kashi tea once a week 

& top dress 1 thing fortnightly & another monthly , the only other thing is top dress with dolomite at bud set & at soil mixing , that's it from start to finish 

 

if you were to try & flush , aka water through the top of a sip , you would instantly over water the plant 

 

you also are able to grow a bigger plant for the size of container 

 

i believe Bogan has one of those self watering pots he was looking at adapting / playing with at some point 

it def  looks poss to adapt in  some way 

 

i have 3 sips indoor now , & they are very impressive imho 

[the wiz]

I bought 2 earthboxes through amazon..quite expensive..about $70 each i think..still havent used them tho