Geopot users

[itchybromusic]

Hey all 

this year i tried transplanting from one geopot to a bigger geopot without removing the first pot 

burying the pot & root ball in the plants next home with zero transplant shock 

 

geo's being root pruners you get no roots spinning round the pot , once buried roots take off

straight though the 1st pot & the plant go's F'ing crazy , i was impressed with this but

was concerned what might be leeching , if anything , from a buried fabric pot , i emailed Geopot

& asked the question 

 

this was there reply :

 

The pots won't leech, but like you said, it will probably ruin the pot, if not damage it  pretty bad. 

 

We actually have these really cool pots called G-Naturals, they are 100% organic and biodegradable

so you can start your babies in those, and then transplant them directly into a large pot.

 

I would recommend those for you, but if not, you can always use our G-Lites. They are quite a bit less

expensive than the GeoPot, so it won't be such a bad thing if they are transplanted directly into a bigger pot.  

 

G-Naturals https://www.geopot.com/products/g-natural

G-Lite https://www.geopot.com/products/square-bottom-glite

 

Geopot are imported to Australia by Way To Grow & only have the standard geo's in stock 

if you think you'd like to try these out as i would , please contact way to grow & break there chops

in a nice way , to stock the G-Naturals & G-lites , cos there cheaper too 

 

here is the contact page i used for chop breaking at Way To Grow http://www.way2grow.com.au/Contact%20Us

 

cheers all & good growing to ya 

itchy 

[Swftroml]

In the mean time or if $5 for a 1 shot pot is out of budget... could go the DIY route buy a roll of burlap and make 1 gal pots for 1/10th the price of the g lite natural.

Lots of tutorials for fabric pots. Sizing chart below.

 

 

 

bag dimensions in INCHES

 

size accounts for 3/4 inch of glued or stitched edge, and the gallons are at 85% of pot capacity

 

seam width: 0.75 / fill percentage (80-100%): 85

 

cut size: height x width / folded size: height x width / filled size: diameter x height / volume in gallons / volume in ml / volume in litres

4 x 8 / 4 x 4 / 2.1 x 2.2 / 0.03 gallons / 102 ml / 0.1 litres

5 x 10 / 5 x 5 / 2.7 x 2.8 / 0.06 gallons / 227 ml / 0.2 litres

6 x 12 / 6 x 6 / 3.3 x 3.5 / 0.11 gallons / 429 ml / 0.4 litres

7 x 14 / 7 x 7 / 4.0 x 4.2 / 0.19 gallons / 724 ml / 0.7 litres

8 x 16 / 8 x 8 / 4.6 x 4.8 / 0.30 gallons / 1129 ml / 1.1 litres

9 x 18 / 9 x 9 / 5.3 x 5.5 / 0.44 gallons / 1664 ml / 1.7 litres

10 x 20 / 10 x 10 / 5.9 x 6.2 / 0.62 gallons / 2345 ml / 2.3 litres

11 x 22 / 11 x 11 / 6.5 x 6.8 / 0.84 gallons / 3191 ml / 3.2 litres

12 x 24 / 12 x 12 / 7.2 x 7.5 / 1.12 gallons / 4220 ml / 4.2 litres

13 x 26 / 13 x 13 / 7.8 x 8.2 / 1.44 gallons / 5448 ml / 5.4 litres

14 x 28 / 14 x 14 / 8.4 x 8.8 / 1.82 gallons / 6894 ml / 6.9 litres

15 x 30 / 15 x 15 / 9.1 x 9.5 / 2.27 gallons / 8575 ml / 8.6 litres

16 x 32 / 16 x 16 / 9.7 x 10.2 / 2.78 gallons / 10510 ml / 10.5 litres

17 x 34 / 17 x 17 / 10.4 x 10.8 / 3.36 gallons / 12716 ml / 12.7 litres

18 x 36 / 18 x 18 / 11.0 x 11.5 / 4.02 gallons / 15212 ml / 15.2 litres

19 x 38 / 19 x 19 / 11.6 x 12.2 / 4.77 gallons / 18013 ml / 18.0 litres

20 x 40 / 20 x 20 / 12.3 x 12.8 / 5.59 gallons / 21140 ml / 21.1 litres

21 x 42 / 21 x 21 / 12.9 x 13.5 / 6.51 gallons / 24608 ml / 24.6 litres

22 x 44 / 22 x 22 / 13.5 x 14.2 / 7.52 gallons / 28437 ml / 28.4 litres

23 x 46 / 23 x 23 / 14.2 x 14.8 / 8.64 gallons / 32643 ml / 32.6 litres

24 x 48 / 24 x 24 / 14.8 x 15.5 / 9.85 gallons / 37246 ml / 37.2 litres

25 x 50 / 25 x 25 / 15.4 x 16.2 / 11.18 gallons / 42261 ml / 42.3 litres

26 x 52 / 26 x 26 / 16.1 x 16.8 / 12.62 gallons / 47708 ml / 47.7 litres

27 x 54 / 27 x 27 / 16.7 x 17.5 / 14.18 gallons / 53604 ml / 53.6 litres

28 x 56 / 28 x 28 / 17.4 x 18.1 / 15.86 gallons / 59966 ml / 60.0 litres

29 x 58 / 29 x 29 / 18.0 x 18.8 / 17.68 gallons / 66813 ml / 66.8 litres

30 x 60 / 30 x 30 / 18.6 x 19.5 / 19.62 gallons / 74162 ml / 74.2 litres

31 x 62 / 31 x 31 / 19.3 x 20.1 / 21.70 gallons / 82032 ml / 82.0 litres

32 x 64 / 32 x 32 / 19.9 x 20.8 / 23.93 gallons / 90439 ml / 90.4 litres

33 x 66 / 33 x 33 / 20.5 x 21.5 / 26.30 gallons / 99402 ml / 99.4 litres

34 x 68 / 34 x 34 / 21.2 x 22.1 / 28.82 gallons / 108938 ml / 108.9 litres

35 x 70 / 35 x 35 / 21.8 x 22.8 / 31.50 gallons / 119066 ml / 119.1 litres

36 x 72 / 36 x 36 / 22.5 x 23.5 / 34.34 gallons / 129802 ml / 129.8 litres

37 x 74 / 37 x 37 / 23.1 x 24.1 / 37.35 gallons / 141166 ml / 141.2 litres

38 x 76 / 38 x 38 / 23.7 x 24.8 / 40.52 gallons / 153174 ml / 153.2 litres

39 x 78 / 39 x 39 / 24.4 x 25.5 / 43.87 gallons / 165844 ml / 165.8 litres

40 x 80 / 40 x 40 / 25.0 x 26.1 / 47.41 gallons / 179194 ml / 179.2 litres

41 x 82 / 41 x 41 / 25.6 x 26.8 / 51.12 gallons / 193243 ml / 193.2 litres

42 x 84 / 42 x 42 / 26.3 x 27.5 / 55.03 gallons / 208007 ml / 208.0 litres

43 x 86 / 43 x 43 / 26.9 x 28.1 / 59.13 gallons / 223504 ml / 223.5 litres

44 x 88 / 44 x 44 / 27.6 x 28.8 / 63.43 gallons / 239753 ml / 239.8 litres

45 x 90 / 45 x 45 / 28.2 x 29.5 / 67.93 gallons / 256771 ml / 256.8 litres

46 x 92 / 46 x 46 / 28.8 x 30.1 / 72.64 gallons / 274575 ml / 274.6 litres

47 x 94 / 47 x 47 / 29.5 x 30.8 / 77.56 gallons / 293184 ml / 293.2 litres

48 x 96 / 48 x 48 / 30.1 x 31.5 / 82.70 gallons / 312616 ml / 312.6 litres

49 x 98 / 49 x 49 / 30.7 x 32.1 / 88.07 gallons / 332888 ml / 332.9 litres

50 x 100 / 50 x 50 / 31.4 x 32.8 / 93.66 gallons / 354017 ml / 354.0 litres

51 x 102 / 51 x 51 / 32.0 x 33.5 / 99.48 gallons / 376023 ml / 376.0 litres

52 x 104 / 52 x 52 / 32.6 x 34.1 / 105.53 gallons / 398921 ml / 398.9 litres

53 x 106 / 53 x 53 / 33.3 x 34.8 / 111.83 gallons / 422731 ml / 422.7 litres

54 x 108 / 54 x 54 / 33.9 x 35.5 / 118.38 gallons / 447471 ml / 447.5 litres

55 x 110 / 55 x 55 / 34.6 x 36.1 / 125.17 gallons / 473157 ml / 473.2 litres

56 x 112 / 56 x 56 / 35.2 x 36.8 / 132.22 gallons / 499807 ml / 499.8 litres

57 x 114 / 57 x 57 / 35.8 x 37.5 / 139.53 gallons / 527440 ml / 527.4 litres

58 x 116 / 58 x 58 / 36.5 x 38.1 / 147.11 gallons / 556073 ml / 556.1 litres

59 x 118 / 59 x 59 / 37.1 x 38.8 / 154.95 gallons / 585725 ml / 585.7 litres

60 x 120 / 60 x 60 / 37.7 x 39.5 / 163.07 gallons / 616411 ml / 616.4 litres

61 x 122 / 61 x 61 / 38.4 x 40.1 / 171.47 gallons / 648152 ml / 648.2 litres

62 x 124 / 62 x 62 / 39.0 x 40.8 / 180.15 gallons / 680964 ml / 681.0 litres

63 x 126 / 63 x 63 / 39.7 x 41.5 / 189.12 gallons / 714864 ml / 714.9 litres

64 x 128 / 64 x 64 / 40.3 x 42.1 / 198.38 gallons / 749872 ml / 749.9 litres

65 x 130 / 65 x 65 / 40.9 x 42.8 / 207.94 gallons / 786005 ml / 786.0 litres

66 x 132 / 66 x 66 / 41.6 x 43.5 / 217.80 gallons / 823279 ml / 823.3 litres

67 x 134 / 67 x 67 / 42.2 x 44.1 / 227.97 gallons / 861714 ml / 861.7 litres

68 x 136 / 68 x 68 / 42.8 x 44.8 / 238.45 gallons / 901327 ml / 901.3 litres

69 x 138 / 69 x 69 / 43.5 x 45.5 / 249.24 gallons / 942136 ml / 942.1 litres

70 x 140 / 70 x 70 / 44.1 x 46.1 / 260.36 gallons / 984158 ml / 984.2 litres

71 x 142 / 71 x 71 / 44.7 x 46.8 / 271.80 gallons / 1027412 ml / 1027.4 litres

72 x 144 / 72 x 72 / 45.4 x 47.5 / 283.58 gallons / 1071915 ml / 1071.9 litres

73 x 146 / 73 x 73 / 46.0 x 48.1 / 295.68 gallons / 1117684 ml / 1117.7 litres

74 x 148 / 74 x 74 / 46.7 x 48.8 / 308.13 gallons / 1164739 ml / 1164.7 litres

75 x 150 / 75 x 75 / 47.3 x 49.5 / 320.92 gallons / 1213096 ml / 1213.1 litres

76 x 152 / 76 x 76 / 47.9 x 50.1 / 334.07 gallons / 1262773 ml / 1262.8 litres

77 x 154 / 77 x 77 / 48.6 x 50.8 / 347.56 gallons / 1313788 ml / 1313.8 litres

78 x 156 / 78 x 78 / 49.2 x 51.4 / 361.42 gallons / 1366159 ml / 1366.2 litres

79 x 158 / 79 x 79 / 49.8 x 52.1 / 375.64 gallons / 1419903 ml / 1419.9 litres

80 x 160 / 80 x 80 / 50.5 x 52.8 / 390.22 gallons / 1475039 ml / 1475.0 litres

81 x 162 / 81 x 81 / 51.1 x 53.4 / 405.18 gallons / 1531584 ml / 1531.6 litres

82 x 164 / 82 x 82 / 51.8 x 54.1 / 420.52 gallons / 1589556 ml / 1589.6 litres

83 x 166 / 83 x 83 / 52.4 x 54.8 / 436.24 gallons / 1648972 ml / 1649.0 litres

84 x 168 / 84 x 84 / 53.0 x 55.4 / 452.34 gallons / 1709851 ml / 1709.9 litres

85 x 170 / 85 x 85 / 53.7 x 56.1 / 468.84 gallons / 1772211 ml / 1772.2 litres

86 x 172 / 86 x 86 / 54.3 x 56.8 / 485.73 gallons / 1836068 ml / 1836.1 litres

87 x 174 / 87 x 87 / 54.9 x 57.4 / 503.03 gallons / 1901441 ml / 1901.4 litres

88 x 176 / 88 x 88 / 55.6 x 58.1 / 520.73 gallons / 1968348 ml / 1968.3 litres

89 x 178 / 89 x 89 / 56.2 x 58.8 / 538.84 gallons / 2036807 ml / 2036.8 litres

90 x 180 / 90 x 90 / 56.9 x 59.4 / 557.36 gallons / 2106834 ml / 2106.8 litres

91 x 182 / 91 x 91 / 57.5 x 60.1 / 576.31 gallons / 2178448 ml / 2178.4 litres

92 x 184 / 92 x 92 / 58.1 x 60.8 / 595.68 gallons / 2251668 ml / 2251.7 litres

93 x 186 / 93 x 93 / 58.8 x 61.4 / 615.48 gallons / 2326509 ml / 2326.5 litres

94 x 188 / 94 x 94 / 59.4 x 62.1 / 635.71 gallons / 2402991 ml / 2403.0 litres

95 x 190 / 95 x 95 / 60.0 x 62.8 / 656.38 gallons / 2481131 ml / 2481.1 litres

96 x 192 / 96 x 96 / 60.7 x 63.4 / 677.50 gallons / 2560947 ml / 2560.9 litres

[Gazza2001au]

My last grow was my first time using fabric pots it had its good and bad moments, i didnt like the frequent waterings i found watering every second day a pain in the ass but the growth was fucking unreal something like 200mm in 3 days the roots exploded but in return it was tedius picking the roots from the base of the pot i gave up i'll clean them later now the roots are dry the should rub off

An automated feeding grow in fabric pots would be hectic feeding once or twice a day i can only imagine the kind of growth one would see.....

[itchybromusic]

hey swftomi yeah that could work & cheaper but easier to buy pre-made 

 

 

yo gaz , yeah you def water more in a smaller fabric pot but that's the point , smaller , 

a larger volume of soil is allot easier to keep alive & moist than a smaller amount of soil 

 

the transplants i'm talking about is like 5gal to a 15gal at switch or bigger , very hard to

remove a 5 or 10gal root ball from any pot but if you can just pick up the bag & drop into a 

bigger bag with more soil mix you get zero transplant shock cos roots are not disturbed &

push straight into the new fresh soil mix

[Swftroml]

True itchy, a pre made option would be handy for some folk. I don't mind paying for fabric pots that will last years indoors but one shot pots I can't budget for. Can't see why diy burlap wouldn't work the same (as long it was grown and processed in a clean way) and honestly small fabric pots are very easy to make.

Thanks for introducing me to this biodegradable fabric pot, I was thinking cotton for a while but this makes more sense. Will incorporate into sub irrigation for seed starts, you know the whole tap root deal with sub irrigation and seed starts... nice way around it. Cheers itchy.

[itchybromusic]

True itchy, a pre made option would be handy for some folk. I don't mind paying for fabric pots that will last years indoors but one shot pots I can't budget for. Can't see why diy burlap wouldn't work the same (as long it was grown and processed in a clean way) and honestly small fabric pots are very easy to make.

Thanks for introducing me to this biodegradable fabric pot, I was thinking cotton for a while but this makes more sense. Will incorporate into sub irrigation for seed starts, you know the whole tap root deal with sub irrigation and seed starts... nice way around it. Cheers itchy.

yeah i'm more thinking on the bigger end of veg size plants , 5 - 10 gal transplanting to a 15 - 20 gal for the rest of flower 

makes it easier to move round in veg when in 5 or 10 gal , in 15 or 20's there starting to be permanent fixtures 

this only relates to me really & my environment for growing & the need to be versatile with plant possi & unannounced visitors 

 

will be doing sip's indoors soon which would bypass the need for fabric pots cos i'll be using earthboxes 

have made my own gro-kashi , will use the soilless medium of peat , air & dolomite , top dress kashi & compost / castings

with kashi teas each fortnight / month , probiotic wellness garden basically https://earthbox.com/media/wysiwyg/pdfs/EartBox_Probiotic_Wellness_Garden_Planting_Instructions.pdf

 

just chopped a plant that's been in a greensmart pot , oz pre made sip , for this outdoor 

have made some mistakes & wasn't the best grow i've had but i can def see benefit in growing this way 

not to mention the ease of growing in this method & the nutrient density if provides in your final product 

 

take it easy swftroml

[Swftroml]

Ahh the greensmart, we talked about the design giving you some grief and how you had ordered the earthboxs.

 

Solid plan itchy, I'm currently converting everything over to sub irrigation. Love that simplicity with the great results, incredible really.

 

Lately for veg been using hardpots on perlite wicking trays, only for clones though due to the loss of roots at transplant from those that went searching in the perlite so that's what I mean saying burlap will come in for the seed starts tap roots with sub irrigation, also being able sex them outside of the final sip containers is big for me. Yeh we all have to do what suits us and are situation, mine is inconsistency with hand watering (EDIT:) and deep pockets

 

Thanks itchy, take it easy aswell.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Swftroml

[itchybromusic]

Ahh the greensmart, we talked about the design giving you some grief and how you had ordered the earthboxs.

 

Solid plan itchy, I'm currently converting everything over to sub irrigation. Love that simplicity with the great results, incredible really.

 

Lately for veg been using hardpots on perlite wicking trays, only for clones though due to the loss of roots at transplant from those that went searching in the perlite so that's what I mean saying burlap will come in for the seed starts tap roots with sub irrigation, also being able sex them outside of the final sip containers is big for me. Yeh we all have to do what suits us and are situation, mine is inconsistency with hand watering (EDIT:) and deep pockets

 

Thanks itchy, take it easy aswell.

hand watering with a no till system can def be hard , i have same issues but find it more 

based in pot size , add to that the pot being fabric & dry outs can happen quickly

 

to prevent that you get in a lill early with some water & you over water , spend the

rest of the time , over , under , over , under  , sound familiar , well does for me anyway

 

you don't have as much of that issue in plastic pots , but they have there own set of issues 

i personally prefer the fabrics , i don't think you get as many probs with them if you get the

size right & transplant fairly regular

 

cost can def get up there , i was lucky a fellow oz st member found some eathboxes second hand

i was able to get 4 of them , i might owe 2 back to the finder at some point , Thanks Q

 

i guess you need to look long term when putting your hand in your pocket for something

can't really speak from experience yet but if this all go's as i hope it dose , i don't think i'll

be changing much after this & should workout allot cheaper to run , kashi you make yourself

em-1 you can extend 1lt to 20 odd liters , make compost & castings at home , a big bag of dolomite

molasses & rain or clean water , there be some ipm stuff in there as well but with plant health that

sips provide that shouldn't be to intensive

 

cheers mate good luck with the conversion 

[nici]

Im looking at changing to sips and was contemplating a geopot/rhizo pot with soil mixture of rice hulls and organic xtra (trying to keep as organic as possible), sitting on hydroton in the res for passive feeding. Would like to be running a tea - seasol - water feeding rotation; Or should I just say fuck it and go coco sip?

[Gazza2001au]

I was going to run these a couple of years ago

 

https://blumatsystems.com/product/31/Blumat-Junior-XL-%E2%80%93-2-pieces-on-blisterpack

 

i might give them a try but not the kit i don't want floods so the basic ones will be easier to set up, this should solve the watering problem in fabric pots