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[Gazza2001au]

or something like this for trees http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6-X-BUBBLE-GROW-1-SHOT-100L-WATER-TANK-CONNECTOR-KIT-HYDROPONIC-SYSTEM-/111843859084?hash=item1a0a69da8c:g:dP0AAOSwxN5WZU2e

[Serrated edge]

Yeh better to make up something your self that will fill as much of that space as you want.

[merl1n]

Thats wat it says for whole lot its on ebay. They all sit straight ontopScreenshot_20170316-184106

I've seen this before. No, no and sorry but NO!!! This kit is a once (maybe twice) use, then biff and replace. Buy individual bits and make ya setup. Not a kit like this.

We can tell you how to make your own setup, if you ask. But you won't be happy if you end up goin for that kit.

That mesh bends and flexes. As you water and the plants get bigger and heavier the centre starts to sink and permanently bend.

Also, as you grow you get salts building up in you reservoir, you need access to your whole resi to rinse and clean it out properly.

I've said it before but more plants does NOT mean more weed. In a space that size I'd SCROG one plant and get as much smoke without the individual problems from each plant. Much easier.

That's my view anyways.

[Sir PsychoHashy]

Yep, another member ran that shit last year from memory, and had some issues.  Not surprising really, being Growlush brand.

 

But flushing was definitely a difficult task with it.  Overpriced crap, poorly constructed from inferior materials, not fit for purpose, and overpriced.

 

Believe me, I understand the appeal of something in kit form, but it's rarely the best option in this field, and if it's on Ebay, chances are it's a kit of Chinese crap.  If you take the time to understand the principals of the style of hydroponic system you want to use, and how it works, it's very simple to plan out your own system, and you end up with something better for less money. 

 

Air pump and aquarium heater from a pet shop, pond pump, irrigation tubing etc, and storage tubs (not the thin brittle plastic ones) from Bunnings, and maybe a few more specialised plumbing bits from a hydro shop, and you can set up top feeding or flood and drain systems tailored to your setup very simply, and you can design in easy cleaning, flushing, and stray root management etc.

[Annabanana]

My first indoor grow and I keep reading contradictory advice and articles online. So I don't know if I should've given them quarter strength Coco nutes today or not. I read some articles and guides that said they need nutes from the get go cos they're seedlings in hydro medium not soil. But now I've read the opposite. Most of the cups were dry (and light in weight). Some look yellowing and ill. Others look alright-ish. 3 different strains. Between 12 and 5 days old. I noticed there were loads of roots all around the inside edges of some cups. Any advice will be appreciated.

Edited May 10, 2017 by Annabanana

[merl1n]

"My first indoor grow and I keep reading contradictory advice and articles online..."

And that's the problem with the internet, too much information to sort thru. Everybody's conditions are different, be that the medium they use, the lighting they use, their nutes, their airflow and the space they are growing in. It can take a while to work out what is best for you and your setup.

 

"...So I don't know if I should've given them quarter strength Coco nutes today or not..."

When a seedling cracks the first set of leaves are called cotyledon leaves. These leaves are used by the plant as a reservoir, they contain the nutes required for the seedling to establish itself. Once the reserves have been used these cotyledon leaves will shrivel up and die. You need to be giving your babies 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes prior to them dying completely. Personally I'd be starting with 1/2 strength, pH adjusted nutes.

 

Considering the size of your space that's a hell of a lot of plants imo. I'm in a 3x3m room and I grow one(1) plant and it fills my entire space by growing scrog style. I have found having too many plants in a confined space can be a bitch to manage because when you turn 12/12 there is a massive growth splurt and you'll find you will run out of space. Some people think more plants equals more bud. WRONG. some people think more lights equals more bud. WRONG. Its all a fine balancing act between light, space and airflow. It has very little to do with plant numbers. I get as much bud from one plant as I would get from 10 plants in the same growspace.

 

Hope it helps

Merl1n

[Sir PsychoHashy]

I already responded about nute strength to your post in another thread.

 

Have those cups got good drainage, and have you been careful not to overwater?  A couple of them look a little like they've bogged down from overwatering, which could also be a drainage issue.  Could possibly also be damage from drying out too much if that happened.

 

Seedlings in those cups should usually need potting up by 10 days or so, but they mostly don't look big enough to need it.  But I've never used those, I start in 100mm pots and use the point at which the leaves spread out past the sides of the pot as a guide to when they're ready to pot up, and that's usually about 2 weeks.

 

[Annabanana]

"My first indoor grow and I keep reading contradictory advice and articles online..."And that's the problem with the internet, too much information to sort thru. Everybody's conditions are different, be that the medium they use, the lighting they use, their nutes, their airflow and the space they are growing in. It can take a while to work out what is best for you and your setup."...So I don't know if I should've given them quarter strength Coco nutes today or not..."When a seedling cracks the first set of leaves are called cotyledon leaves. These leaves are used by the plant as a reservoir, they contain the nutes required for the seedling to establish itself. Once the reserves have been used these cotyledon leaves will shrivel up and die. You need to be giving your babies 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes prior to them dying completely. Personally I'd be starting with 1/2 strength, pH adjusted nutes.Considering the size of your space that's a hell of a lot of plants imo. I'm in a 3x3m room and I grow one(1) plant and it fills my entire space by growing scrog style. I have found having too many plants in a confined space can be a bitch to manage because when you turn 12/12 there is a massive growth splurt and you'll find you will run out of space. Some people think more plants equals more bud. WRONG. some people think more lights equals more bud. WRONG. Its all a fine balancing act between light, space and airflow. It has very little to do with plant numbers. I get as much bud from one plant as I would get from 10 plants in the same growspace.Hope it helpsMerl1n

Thank you SO much. That makes complete sense to me. I've been worrying about the cotelydon leaves yellowing and couldn't work out why!! The reason I've got so many seedlings is that of all the seed orders I purchased, the only 2 that initially got thru, were the only regular seeds I bought (SSS, Greenpoint- neither sell feminized yet). So I expect to have to cull all the males and less healthy ones. Then I got 5 BigBud feminized, so they're now in there. And I have a 2nd tent that's 4square meter yet to be erected. I appreciate your help, Merlin.

Edited May 11, 2017 by Annabanana

[Annabanana]

I already responded about nute strength to your post in another thread.

 

Have those cups got good drainage, and have you been careful not to overwater?  A couple of them look a little like they've bogged down from overwatering, which could also be a drainage issue.  Could possibly also be damage from drying out too much if that happened.

 

Seedlings in those cups should usually need potting up by 10 days or so, but they mostly don't look big enough to need it.  But I've never used those, I start in 100mm pots and use the point at which the leaves spread out past the sides of the pot as a guide to when they're ready to pot up, and that's usually about 2 weeks.

 

I am sorry I've asked the same question twice. Like I said, I was getting completely contradictory information and panicked. I won't do that again.

The cups are drying out every other day. Perhaps cos I have added more drainage holes. When I transplant up, I'll cull any less healthy ones. I have to erect my new bigger tent first. Thanks for the advice on potting up timetables. Very helpful. And much appreciated.