Medical Cannabis

[Dingo-2008]

Hi crew I saw my pain management specialist this week an asked him about getting medical cannabis +  CBD oil an was told that the big boss does not believe that cannabis or cbd oil works to help with chronic pain ,What a Fucking joke I told him.

 

The Head man does not believe that cannabis does what other doctors say it does an helps with all the illnesses they say it helps with.

 

How many more tests do they have to do before the none believers come to the party an believe all the other tests that have been done in Australia an over seas.

 

I think it is time to wake the Fuck up you none believing Doctors an start believing in all the tests that have been done here in Australia an over seas.

 

This is One very pisses off person that suffers from {chronic pain ,3 forms of Arthritis,Calcifacation of the brain,& a Hemorrhagic neoplasm on the right side of the brain} all i can say is fuck you an I am going back to growing my own medical cannabis because you will not help me.

 

When will this crazy bullshit stop with them doctors.

 

Regards,Dingo-2008. 

[Ganggong]

Sadly dingo our government is not really interested in its people's health!

So they they keep there big corporate pharma buddies happy with things like not testing for pharma drugs roadside,while victimising cannabis users roadside!

Stealing legitimate medicine from compassionate carers!

Then try and force us to use crazy expensive chemical cocktails.

They just want money and control and that is it in a nutshell at the moment

We will not be controlled by big pharma!

"Get up stand up !stand up for your rights!"

"Get up ! Stand up ! Don't give up the fight!"

 

 

Peace✌️

[Sir PsychoHashy]

That's fucked up, but pretty much predictable.  A lot of the medical community is just as much in the pocket of big pharma as our government, not to mention all the right wing dinosaurs who seem to be behind the scenes pulling the strings within government and many organisations. 

 

Best you could have hoped for on the current scheme would have been something like Sativex, which may or may not have been helpful for you.  As far as I know there are no pharma products based on CBD.

 

Hope your next crop comes in fast and well balanced for your needs.

[Faith]

Advance Australia  Fair?  You deserve  better from your country Dingo. Grow em mate and damn the consequences...they are showing their true colours...

Faith

[merl1n]

Yep, very similar to the opinion I received too Dingo. They wouldn't even discuss it as an option at the Pain Management Clinic, despite other participants at the clinic wanting to discuss this very matter. "We have other options available" we were told. Like what? you ask. Like pharma opiates of every colour and flavour. Our 'wonderful' Federal Government have 'altered' the law regarding canna, but they have only altered it to allow BIG pharma access. I am well aware that there are a few members here who poo poo Lucy Haslam, but even she has spoken up about the 'pharma only access' these pricks have initiated.https://www.change.org/p/malcolm-turnbull-decriminalise-the-use-of-medicinal-cannabis-for-people-with-terminal-cancer-like-my-son/u/19047596

Her son, Daniel, has passed away, but she is still pushing for free access. Let's face it, she doesn't have too. In my view, if she still has access to govt and is prepared to continue the push, then go for it. These pricks ain't listening to you and I, maybe they will listen to her as a concerned parent and not just a 'stoner', we need someone to speak up and we need someone to listen. We need to get away from the paradigm of the stoner hippie and if Lucy can break that paradigm, then in my view, you go girl.

 

Merl1n

[fishwyfe]

Hi crew I saw my pain management specialist this week an asked him about getting medical cannabis +  CBD oil an was told that the big boss does not believe that cannabis or cbd oil works to help with chronic pain

 

Did you inquire what type of chronic pain the big man suffers from, and for which he has found medicinal cannabis to be so ineffective?

 

◻ You can get your own source of CBD, because Hemp Oil is legal and is sold online.

[steve_o_76]

Dr's are just text book freaks . If its not what they been brain washed in the Dr book it's not true . Always said the older ones that are brain washed need to die out before its ever gunna be really known as a medicine . But pharmaceutical companies give them and there familys a nice big holiday if they keep proscribing the meds they want them to so who do ya think there gunna go with us the public or the pharma that give them shit

[sudsey123]

My sister is suffering 24/7 from a chronic pain,  she asked the doctors about medical cannabis but was basically told to forget it,  it is not available,  doctors are just not interested unless they can make a buck out of it.  I have looked on line for CBD for her,  but have only come across some overseas stuff,  which I am not sure how good and reliable they are.  Would anyone please point me to a web page where I can buy it only.  She is desperate and will try anything,  she is in so much pain,  can't sleep,  can only sit for a short time or lye down,  I tell you our pets don't suffer half as my as she does    Please help if you can,  thank you very much in advance.

Edited January 28, 2017 by sudsey123

[_Puff_Tough_]

You challenge them to provide you with any scientifically valid data that suggests its detrimental to your health.... tell them you will stop entirely never to consider it if there argument is based in hard science. That the alternatives to cannabis for your treatment have more serious and potentially deleterious side effects; show them the sideeffects sheet (for the pharm you will be replacing). It can work but your argument has to be strong. You need to also ask them right of the bat what receptors cannabis binds to and if they know anything about that; its a good way to start the conversation. Yuo need to speak about the cannabinoids your body produces and how babys require this to induce feeding during post and pre natal development and how it causes homeostasis throughout the body; from that point you ask them to provide you with some scientifically sound HARD data to suggest cannabis is dangerous.

 

This argument has always ensured a stalemate.....

 

Sucks about your position dingy...

Edited January 28, 2017 by _Puff_Tough_

[Faith]

"They wouldn't even discuss it as an option at the Pain Management Clinic, despite other participants at the clinic wanting to discuss this very matter. "We have other options available" we were told. Like what? you ask. Like pharma opiates of every colour and flavour." 

 

Hiya Merl1n.  I was a member of one of these 'government sanctioned'(?)  Pain Management groups beginning a couple of years back.  same ol story, come, have a whinge and vent (which did help to a degree)...'guest' speakers from the hospital and 'pain experts'.  99 percent of literature given to me to 'assist' in my pain management was BIg Pharma sponsored....often with a big ol fat ad, but mostly in the 'fine print'  I have no doubt there are wonderfully compassionate persons in these organisations and the hospitals/gps.  They are either blind, choose to look the other way, or in cahoots.

 

As for gps not getting on board, It is interesting to notice the amount of overseas born doctors, coming to Australia to provide an essential service and perhaps give themselves and their families a 'better life' than whence they were from.  If I was in their position, it would be extremely difficult to risk being de-registered(?) and or perhaps shipped out for supporting the medicianal cannabis stance...or even speaking out.  My docs are pretty much all Indian and Sri Lankan...best health assistance I have ever experienced as opposed to my US and Australian counterparts.  I have discussed honestly and openly with them my canna use for my particular set of circumstances.  They are supportive, particularly if not dosing implementing combustion, but even so non-judgemental-they see canna as a quality alternative...even preferable to opiates. 

 

Interesting to note at the Pain Mangement group 'do's" that the coffee, tea and sweet foods that are always passed around are serious inhibitors to pain reduction. Food nutrition and hard science do not make money unfortunately. 

 

Faith

 

 

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[merl1n]

Ahh Faith, very well said as it's all true "...a whinge and vent..." fest. With lots of coffee. I have been offered as much counselling as I would like, which is great if you want more talk and more coffee. Bugger all use in the actual management of pain. Which is sad

"You need to learn to relax"  

"I AM FUCKING RELAXED YOU IDIOT. I"M IN FUCKING PAIN"

"So lets' talk about that..."

"GGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

ANYONE GOT A GUN, I CAN FEEL A MURDER COMING ON lol

 

So I've given up on the professionals. I keep my regular appointments. I nod and agree at all the appropriate times. Then go home and manage the best way for me, not them.

I can read all the same books as them and get all the same theoretical answers. But, as in live, theoretical theory and practical management are two totally different things. All the theory in the world can't give me the tools to manage this. This reality is 100% practical management. No university degree, nor studies, nor books to read, nor 'shared experience' (talk fest) can ever teach that.

 

Merl1n