SCROG Grow

[tim4960]

Hey all my fellow growers, I am going to attempt my first scrog grow and was wondering if anyone has done this and if so what strain was used or have heard was a good strain to use. Thanks so much and im sure youll hear more from me in the coming days and months. Thanks again Here are some pics of other grows Ive done. Enjoy..

[Naked Monk]

You want a strain that obviously has or is capable of good side branching. Indicas or hybrids tend to work the best.

[billygoat]

plenty of threads here on it... have a look and search through the grow diaries .

 

PS, turn the lights on in your grow room, can't see anything in that picture

[merl1n]

Hey Tim,

             Welcome to OS. I grow SCROG and have done so for many years. SCROG is not so much about strain but is more about train It's how you train the plant to grow. In nature the sun moves across the sky and the plant grows like a xmas tree, by SCROGing you invert the xmas tree shape, so instead of a ^ shape you train it to have a V shape. To do this I use a steel frame covered with fencing netting, I call it my SCROG table. I grow one plant under the centre of my table and train it out underneath, like a starfish. Here's a scribble/sketch. https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/17476-rough-sketch-steel-table/

To slow the upward growth and increase the lateral growth I pluck the centres from the growing tips. This has two advantages, it obviously slows the upward growth and pushes the goodness out and increases the lateral growth, but where the tips have been plucked the stems divide, so instead of having the one growing tip you have two tips. Now I only 'tip' during the 18/6 light cycle, this gives the plant time to recover and grow the double tip out before turning 12/12.

Once the branches reach the outside of the SCROG table, I change my light timings to 12/12. Then allow that growth to grow up through the table netting. These upward stems are what the buds develop on. I have a fan blowing through the canopy to flex these stems. By them flexing they become thicker and stronger, which they need to be to hold the weight of the developing buds. Above my SCROG netting (Steel netting) I use 2 trailer nets to support the weight of these buds as otherwise the weight gets too much and the buds end up bending over facing the floor and not the lights. Here's a pic of the table and if you look carefully you can see the cable of the trailer net in the bottom left hand corner https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/10059-3/

Here is another pic, this shows the leg of my SCROG table, with the trailer net stretched out between the legs. On top of that leg is a fan to stir the air around the plant canopy and move/flex the growth https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/10063-7/

 

So, that's how I SCROG. I have SCROGGED both sati's and indica's and although they both need differing types of growth management/training, I wouldn't say one needs more than another or is better than another, it's all about management IMO

 

Hope it helps

Merl1n

[Naked Monk]

Hey Tim,

             Welcome to OS. I grow SCROG and have done so for many years. SCROG is not so much about strain but is more about train It's how you train the plant to grow. In nature the sun moves across the sky and the plant grows like a xmas tree, by SCROGing you invert the xmas tree shape, so instead of a ^ shape you train it to have a V shape. To do this I use a steel frame covered with fencing netting, I call it my SCROG table. I grow one plant under the centre of my table and train it out underneath, like a starfish. Here's a scribble/sketch. https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/17476-rough-sketch-steel-table/

To slow the upward growth and increase the lateral growth I pluck the centres from the growing tips. This has two advantages, it obviously slows the upward growth and pushes the goodness out and increases the lateral growth, but where the tips have been plucked the stems divide, so instead of having the one growing tip you have two tips. Now I only 'tip' during the 18/6 light cycle, this gives the plant time to recover and grow the double tip out before turning 12/12.

Once the branches reach the outside of the SCROG table, I change my light timings to 12/12. Then allow that growth to grow up through the table netting. These upward stems are what the buds develop on. I have a fan blowing through the canopy to flex these stems. By them flexing they become thicker and stronger, which they need to be to hold the weight of the developing buds. Above my SCROG netting (Steel netting) I use 2 trailer nets to support the weight of these buds as otherwise the weight gets too much and the buds end up bending over facing the floor and not the lights. Here's a pic of the table and if you look carefully you can see the cable of the trailer net in the bottom left hand corner https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/10059-3/

Here is another pic, this shows the leg of my SCROG table, with the trailer net stretched out between the legs. On top of that leg is a fan to stir the air around the plant canopy and move/flex the growth https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/gallery/image/10063-7/

 

So, that's how I SCROG. I have SCROGGED both sati's and indica's and although they both need differing types of growth management/training, I wouldn't say one needs more than another or is better than another, it's all about management IMO

 

Hope it helps

Merl1n

 

 

I agree with you about training is the vital key, but strains do have a factor as some strains just don't branch out much as others, Also I just grew a Humbolt Seed Org Bubba's Gift as a bush/shrub grow and it would have been a literal nightmare to scrog as it has basically 0 stretch under 12/12 and is a short bushy plant that couldn't have possibly filled my 4'X4' scrog net that I used to grow on (currently switching to SOG). But again training is probably the most vital

 

Tim have a look at HygroHybrid on Youtube, he has some excellent scrog videos

[Matsu]

I agree with you about training is the vital key, but strains do have a factor as some strains just don't branch out much as others, Also I just grew a Humbolt Seed Org Bubba's Gift as a bush/shrub grow and it would have been a literal nightmare to scrog as it has basically 0 stretch under 12/12 and is a short bushy plant that couldn't have possibly filled my 4'X4' scrog net that I used to grow on (currently switching to SOG). But again training is probably the most vital

 

Tim have a look at HygroHybrid on Youtube, he has some excellent scrog videos

 

Hey Naked Monk,

HygroHybrid charges to watch his videos. I don't think anyone should have to pay for that kind of info. Plenty of free info on here!

Cheers matsu

[tim4960]

First i want to say WOW. This is great info. Thank you soo much for helping me on this new adventure. Ive grown hydro using the Rainforest and had major success and am currently growing an old fav, ICE from Bonza seed.Since going back to soil ive been using ff ocean but its not the best anymore. Ill be switching to canna terra plus and using all canna nutes (using GHnow) I figure my ice grow should be finished in about 1.5 months and want to get a jumpstart on the scrog. Naked Monk im not sure what happened to the pic but will try again . Thanks again everyone for the help, I was diagagnosed with a brain disease and just recently with MS. Ive had a headache for 6 yrs now and my grow is the only thing that gives me any kind of releif. I refuse to be another addict (having spent most of my life being one, 9 yrs clean)So again, TY for the help. Im sure we will talk soon. take care and GOD Bless

[Naked Monk]

Hey Naked Monk,

HygroHybrid charges to watch his videos. I don't think anyone should have to pay for that kind of info. Plenty of free info on here!

Cheers matsu

 

Yes, HygroHybrid charges to watch his channel which is never updated anymore, but you do get a free period to watch them (think it is 14 days from memory), as well as he has his own website now which doesn't cost anything, just wasn't sure if his website had archives to old but true scrog training

[tim4960]

merl1n, in your pic of your scrog grow, I do see the trailer cable. Do you run multiple lines one way or do you basically run another net above the first one? thanks

[merl1n]

Yea Tim, I use 2 trailer nets along with my steel netting of the SCROG table, so 3 nets in total.

The steel net is solely for training the stems out, the first trailer net assists in training and gives support, the second net is solely for supporting the bud weight. Without that netting support the heavy buds bend the stems, the buds end up facing the floor, not good.

 

Merl1n