Short Grow Time

[Nutter3]

As we drift thru seed banks, i note sum seeds are tagged as a short grow period ( not auto)

What does this actually mean, are they targeted at countries that have short summers, or are they better suited to indoor, do they yield as well as a normal outdoor photoperiod,  how much shorter is there grow period ?  What is there main objective

Nutter3

[u4rik]

Hey Nutter =)

I'm not 100% certain, but I think they are simply referring to strains that have a shorter flower period for example: 50 days of 12/12 as opposed to 70-75 days.  I don't know if strains that require shorter flower periods yield less than others - in my experience yield varies from strain to strain, regardless of flowering time. Growing strains which require less time to fill out is most probably more about trying to squeeze another grow per year out of your grow-room/garden.

Edited May 31, 2016 by u4rik

[Serrated edge]

Often ,for me,I gotta read between the lines ,so to speak.If it's a full indica you'd expect less stretch ,but some still stretch more than others,and that generally means it'll fill out ,So they might say a two week grow ,but that might be for a multiple plant grow,like 16 to 20 plants per m2.some stretchy sativas are recommended to have no veg period or a very short veg time cos some just keep stretching and getting out of hand. I reckon instead of saying how long to veg,they could recommend the best height to veg to.this is cos they take different times in each environment eg light wattage nutes etc etc.Eva seeds do that ,which is helpful if your going for SOG.Iced widow says two week grow but that's no good if you only want one or two plants per m2.there are more than one style of growing and it would help us all if the info we need for each strain was available .i always checkout Seedfinders to look for stretch info ,cos they'll often say at what the percentage of stretch is,and the height pre and after stretch.while I'm on about stretch I've noticed the shorter you turn them you'll get more stretch,within each strain.Bomb seeds or Barneys farm are example of giving you the final height to expect but no stretch info . I have some of their seed ,when I grow them it'll be two plants in a 1.2 then I'll go to Seedfinders check out what info is there or spent too long searching often unfinished grow logs on the various forums. And that wastes time .Some strain info will say average stretch , what the fuck does that mean ,double? It's a fuckaround doing multiple strain grows. anyway I've rambled on long enough ,

[u4rik]

Often ,for me,I gotta read between the lines ,so to speak.If it's a full indica you'd expect less stretch ,but some still stretch more than others,and that generally means it'll fill out ,So they might say a two week grow ,but that might be for a multiple plant grow,like 16 to 20 plants per m2.some stretchy sativas are recommended to have no veg period or a very short veg time cos some just keep stretching and getting out of hand. I reckon instead of saying how long to veg,they could recommend the best height to veg to.this is cos they take different times in each environment eg light wattage nutes etc etc.Eva seeds do that ,which is helpful if your going for SOG.Iced widow says two week grow but that's no good if you only want one or two plants per m2.there are more than one style of growing and it would help us all if the info we need for each strain was available .i always checkout Seedfinders to look for stretch info ,cos they'll often say at what the percentage of stretch is,and the height pre and after stretch.while I'm on about stretch I've noticed the shorter you turn them you'll get more stretch,within each strain.Bomb seeds or Barneys farm are example of giving you the final height to expect but no stretch info . I have some of their seed ,when I grow them it'll be two plants in a 1.2 then I'll go to Seedfinders check out what info is there or spent too long searching often unfinished grow logs on the various forums. And that wastes time .Some strain info will say average stretch , what the fuck does that mean ,double? It's a fuckaround doing multiple strain grows. anyway I've rambled on long enough ,

I feel your pain brother   "Full Indica"?? ... I don't think there are many 100% indica strains around these daze, more like 80% indica / 20% sativa? But yes, indica dominant strains tend to grow shorter and bushier (better for indoor grows IMHO). Sativa dominant strains are lanky and grow like pine trees, once they hit the growroom I give them maximum 2 weeks veg time. It definitely is a balancing act!! ...Some sativa dominant strains like you say need to go straight into flower!!

 

Too little veg time can mean small yields, while too much can get completely out of control!!  There are many factors that determine the stretch of a plant: Lighting plays a huge part!

 

In my experience HPS lamps will encourage more stretch than MH. Also environmental factors such as temperature and relative humidity can affect the stretch period.

 

It is a tricky one =) ... quite hard to predict, because even if you grow the same strain at the same time of year in the same environment - different phenotypes can behave differently.

 

 

Peace   

 

[Serrated edge]

Yeh that's right,Also I read recently that stretch can increase if the plant goes through warmer nights than its day temperature.Not sure if I read that in this forum or another .