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[louise]

well i'll shut up now Ms Ex market Gardener , spoilt silage , raw milk , you got it going on there Lu ( Ex = Expert )

lol yeah I have rural roots. We used to milk our own cow, but collected milk from a dairy when they were drying off the cows in late march. The salt content gets to high for them to sell the milk so it goes down the drain. The high salt load and high fat load makes it perfect for doing a soft cheese like camembert.

 

 

now i'll just have ta get ya some malted barley to grind up & feed ya garden , will help the microbes do there thing & make ya plants pray to there vege god ,

something to see i tells ya , at under $5 kg cheap too , love to send you some Lu for a test feed , well maybe a small test feed , yours sound quite spacious

& i'm not a tight arse i swear

I actually need to visit the local brewing shop for a hydrometer for measuring high proof alcohol (that's a whole other story) and had in mind to pick up some malted barley for the garden.

 

Have seen vids of a guy describing similar ground to yours with a demonstration of that ,  he only ever top dressed , compost castings mulch

& in only a short time he was able to push his hand though the soil to his elbow with ease , never tilled once just let the soil dwellers aerate the soil for him

Mine aren't that deep yet, but I am working on it.

[itchybromusic]

lol yeah I have rural roots. We used to milk our own cow, but collected milk from a dairy when they were drying off the cows in late march. The salt content gets to high for them to sell the milk so it goes down the drain. The high salt load and high fat load makes it perfect for doing a soft cheese like camembert.

 

 

 

I actually need to visit the local brewing shop for a hydrometer for measuring high proof alcohol (that's a whole other story) and had in mind to pick up some malted barley for the garden.

 

 

Mine aren't that deep yet, but I am working on it.

cool info on cheese making , & Lu the market gardener moon shiner ! , i can just see Mr Lu playin the banjo while your sayin , " go-wen ta mak him squile like a pig "

 

This is the Malted Barley i get from grain & grape , the least heated the grain & grape man tells me , most amount of enzymes http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/products/category/NFBWLKNJ-grain-malted-and-unmalted/3WBOH%20PILS

 

7 grams ground up per litre , mix & feed or bubble with a dynamic accumulator for 24 , can always add some fulvic , aloe & coconut be good too

but the barley does pretty well on it's own , you can strain & compost it after but don't have to , in your situation leaving the ground up barley on the bed ,

it can go quite hard unless well under a thick mulch

 

word of warning on the bubbling , lots of bubbles i mean lots of bubbles so only bubble in half the water & add the rest later , i tried bubbling

enough for 40lts feed in 5lts of water with my new electromagnetic pump , well i'm still cleaning up ground barley & kelp off the back verandah

so prob best to stick with a 20lt batch , unless u have an F'ing big container to bubble in , that would prob help 

 

Cheers Lu enjoy shopping 

Edited November 13, 2015 by itchybromusic

[Swftroml]

I had to read that three times, for a moment I thought you were using laundry powder as a wetting agent for your peat

Yeh mate and at flush time I hit them with the nappysan oxyplus for the cleanest tasting budz! Soapnuts(berry) from sapindus mukorossi. Sorry for the confusion

[Swftroml]

Hey itchy, when CC's health unfortunately degraded further he had to take it easy in the garden. He started topdressing the ground malted barley,soak it in with a watering. He found no difference vs the tea. I still make the tea but it is an option.

[itchybromusic]

Hey itchy, when CC's health unfortunately degraded further he had to take it easy in the garden. He started topdressing the ground malted barley,soak it in with a watering. He found no difference vs the tea. I still make the tea but it is an option.

cool to know mate , makes sense , thanks 

[Swftroml]

No problem mate, pass on what I can. Have a wicked nice weekend itchy

[louise]

Hey itchy, when CC's health unfortunately degraded further he had to take it easy in the garden. He started topdressing the ground malted barley,soak it in with a watering. He found no difference vs the tea. I still make the tea but it is an option.

That is very good to know, the less physical work the better.

[Swftroml]

That is very good to know, the less physical work the better.

Be great for those beds of yours Louise, I'll quote CC.

 

Clackamas Coot, on 23 May 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

You really don't want to malt grains yourself for the simple fact that you and I and even self-appointed homebrew experts lack the monitoring equipment that is used at malting houses to maximize enzyme expression - it's impossible. Period.

 

I had to start top-dressing vs. making a tea back in January. I had a heart attack and my general strength and motivation has been sapped pretty well. The clean-up and other things that are involved in making a tea basically meant that I couldn't stick to a regular application program.

 

I just finished a cycle where the malted barley was applied as a powder (top-dress) and there isn't one single difference in the results had I made a tea from the barley powder. Not one. Maybe even better this time because I was exact on how much and how often I used the barley powder.

 

Even in good health I'm pretty lazy and if I can remove 2 or more steps and achieve the same results then that's what I'm going to do.

 

KIS and that whole paradigm....

 

CC

 

 

barbarossa23, on 23 May 2015 - 12:29 PM, said:

Hey Coot.....How much Malted Barley powder would you apply to say a 4x8 bed that is 2 ft deep,and how often? As always thanks for your help.

 

6 - 8 cups every 2 or 3 weeks for outdoor soil (a true soil vs. our artificial potting soils) would be a good place to start. Something close to that would give you some great garden plants.

 

HTH

 

CC

[louise]

Ty Swftroml, I know just how a heart attack or two can slow you down. That's exactly why I am looking for a lighter workload.  

[Swftroml]

Ty Swftroml, I know just how a heart attack or two can slow you down. That's exactly why I am looking for a lighter workload.

 

Sorry to hear that Louise. I can tell you are abit of force but there is always something to do in the garden and teas can be a pain at the best of times. I will try and post up some other tea hacks soon (concentrated ice blocks). All the best