Fish Hydrolysate

[itchybromusic]

Some interesting fishy products , organic & foodgrade http://www.australiansoilbiologicalsupplies.com.au/professional-products & a place to get your soil tested 

have never used these products but the fish & crustacean looks very interesting as a feed for plant & soil & part of your IPM with chitin in Crustaceans , ?????? 

 

Single Fish $16.50 1lt

 

Fish & Crustacean $16.50 1lt

 

This product is very unique, with an average of 30% of crustacean shells blended with the fish input. 

Fish + Crustacean Hydrolysate shows extremely good results when tested for feeding biology.

Test results show it feeds Fungi, Protozoa, Bacteria and other very important organisms. With an

average of over 12% Nitrogen it is naturaly very high in protien. Totaly natural, with no minerals

added to boost, unlike most other Fish products on the market.

 

Triple Fish $23.10 1lt

 

Three different types of Fish Hydrolysate from Australia are blended to form an extremely

high grade and effective input. Overall we have a mix of Salmon, Tuna and wild catch. This gives

us much greater diversity with Fatty lipids, protiens, enzymes and minerals to be applied to soil,

compost, compost teas, etc. 

 

Fish Plus $27.10 1lt

[The Stoned Jester]

some good old charlie carp from bunnings prolly does the same trick http://www.bunnings.com.au/charlie-carp-5l-all-purpose-concentrate-fertiliser-_p3019767.

 

my cousin always used to bury 3 fish heads with every plant he grew.

[itchybromusic]

some good old charlie carp from bunnings prolly does the same trick http://www.bunnings.com.au/charlie-carp-5l-all-purpose-concentrate-fertiliser-_p3019767.

 

my cousin always used to bury 3 fish heads with every plant he grew.

I think a few people put some amount if not all the fish in there grow holes 

 

The charlie carp would work just as well & sustainable ( Bloody Imports ) but the Crustacean mix adds to the mix so to speak 

although they don't mention it chitin from crustaceans is very handy to be having in your soil

long story short chitin makes the plant think it's under attack so it sort of puts it's self into protection

mode which bolsters it's inner workings ready to fight which never comes so what does the plant do with

all this bolstering , it puts it in to growth , anyway i just butchered that if you do a search on here for chitin

there's a post that explains it a whole lot better than i just did

Edited November 11, 2015 by itchybromusic

[The Stoned Jester]

yeah i've come across a few posts about chitin, interesting stuff to add.

[louise]

The big differences between a fish emulsion and a fish hydrolysate are; emulsions have been heat treated to remove fats and denature the proteins, making a temperature stable product with a long shelf life, whereas fish hydolysate is an unheated, complete fish product, that has a much shorter shelf life and must be kept cool to prevent premature spoilage.

 

Both have excellent features, but for something to sit on the nutrient shelf, for occasional use - go with fish emulsion.

[itchybromusic]

The big differences between a fish emulsion and a fish hydrolysate are; emulsions have been heat treated to remove fats and denature the proteins, making a temperature stable product with a long shelf life, whereas fish hydolysate is an unheated, complete fish product, that has a much shorter shelf life and must be kept cool to prevent premature spoilage.

 

Both have excellent features, but for something to sit on the nutrient shelf, for occasional use - go with fish emulsion.

or just make your own http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/recipes/fish-fertilizer/

[Swftroml]

Hey itchybromusic, you can extract chitinase from malted grains, this is the enzyme for chitin signalling. Seeds are encoded with Chitinase and other enzymes of interest (protease,urease, phosphatase etc.) and malted barley is sprouted seeds halted by gentle heat so the enzymes and such remain intact.
I use malted barley from a home brew store but you can use any grain, be sure to get whole grain because once it's milled it will degrade. Grind up the malted grain to a flour and use an oz per 4 Gallons of water, bubble or let sit for 4 hours and apply only to soil and NOT foliage. Apply once a fortnight. I learnt this from clackamas coot.

[itchybromusic]

Hey itchybromusic, you can extract chitinase from malted grains, this is the enzyme for chitin signalling. Seeds are encoded with Chitinase and other enzymes of interest (protease,urease, phosphatase etc.) and malted barley is sprouted seeds halted by gentle heat so the enzymes and such remain intact.

I use malted barley from a home brew store but you can use any grain, be sure to get whole grain because once it's milled it will degrade. Grind up the malted grain to a flour and use an oz per 4 litre's of water, bubble or let sit for 4 hours and apply only to soil and NOT foliage. Apply once a fortnight. I learnt this from clackamas coot.

me 2 bro 

i get my malted barley from grain & grape it's a pilsner http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/products/category/search/3WBOH%20PILS the least heated they had , most amount of enzymes 

but was not aware of the chitinase you mentioned , i know you can get chitin from crustaceans , some bugs & there poo & hair , but i'll def check that out

 

def know who the old Coot is , very smart nurserymen & canna cultivator    

 

you using aloe & coconut as well ?

[Faith]

Hiya itchy , swifty Taking all this in here, interested in your question re aloe and coconut itchy..what's the go there?

Peace and good growing

Faith

[Swftroml]

me 2 bro 

i get my malted barley from grain & grape it's a pilsner http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/products/category/search/3WBOH%20PILS the least heated they had , most amount of enzymes 

but was not aware of the chitinase you mentioned , i know you can get chitin from crustaceans , some bugs & there poo & hair , but i'll def check that out

 

def know who the old Coot is , very smart nurserymen & canna cultivator    

 

you using aloe & coconut as well ?

Thats cool mate, we are on the page with a lot of things then I reckon. He is one hell of a guy eh.

itchybromusic well glad I could pass that little detail of coots onto you! it's just one of the many sprouted seeds benefits on the boards and It's perfect for us in oz because I can't find crustacean meals retail and I don't eat enough seafood to diy.

I have tried aloe a few times with good results really need a larger plant Though.

I find coconut interesting but yet to try it fresh and it's expensive! Do you know where to source good quality freeze dried powders of aloe and coconut in oz? How about an Australian substitute for lava rock or pumice? I am tired of perlite.