Can't find good plastic box for aerocloner

[st0ric]

Ive been looking for a decent box to make an aerocloner out of and all the boxes/storage totes from bunnings are made of that crappy hard plastic that cracks the second you look at it so there is no way I will be able to cut 30 holes without breaking and I looked at ordering a Rubbermaid tote from the states but that is stupid expensive on shipping $100+ so does anyone here know where I should look to get this cloner on the road?

[Dingo-2008]

I buy my plastic tubs from Bunnings an they do sell the good soft rubbery plastic tubs in the 50lt size an also ather size tubs made from the same soft plastic an you can buy the plastic lids to fit the top of the tubs ,so you can make a  aero/cloner job.

 

Have a good look around at what they have or maybe try a different bunnings shop or get them to get them in for you.

 

Regards,Dingo-2008. 

[The Rose of Darkness]

The bunnings brand "Tuff Tubs" can be made into aero cloners with a holesaw and patience as with any tub.

 

The tricky part with generic tubs is that traditionally the lid cups over the inner tub.

 

When the sprayers mist everywhere the water has a tendency to go "up and over" the fence and leak everywhere.

 

Running a seal or curtain around the rim of the tub will help to keep the water in, but the seal must make even and complete contact all the way around or water will find a way... every time

 

If you choose the DIY route, I would recommend looking toward large food storage containers like Systema which are leak proof.

 

They come in larger than lunchbox sizes and will prevent any watery graves.

 

Usually being transparent and clear, just spray with a dark aerosol plastic coating like Plasticote (available from Bunnings) after you cut the holes to stop any light

[cap'n yNg]

+1 above. The turf tubs are great. Also try masters as they do a good brand that are cheap, shock resistant (easy to cut and won't cracked) and come in black. Don't know the brand name, they have lids have yellow catches/handles and are about $15 for the 50L tub. Also come in 10 and 20L sizes. I use these and have never had any issues

[st0ric]

I actually just saw the Tuff brand containers online, I will def have to get them ordered in because they don't have them in stock at my local. The 50lt is likely what I want for a large amount of clones and putting some weather strip or plastic to keep the water back shouldn't be too much effort, the hardest part was finding a container made from the right type of plastic. Cheers everyone.

 

This is the container I will get and it seems polypropylene is the good type of plastic.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/tuffman-50l-black-heavy-duty-storage-container_p2582623

Edited September 21, 2015 by st0ric

[The Rose of Darkness]

I would personally advise against the Tuff tubs.

I have 2x 160L, 80 site Tuff Tubs packed away somewhere and they were nightmares for leaks.

They have end clips only and still manage to warp the edges.

Ran rubber seal around the top edge and screwed down the lid and still leaked.

[merl1n]

You can still drill those shitty plastic ones without cracking but as Rose states "... patience..." Slowly. You need to have something solid inside the tub to drill into. I use wood as my solid surface. I found Its usually just as the holesaw breaks thru the final bit as it flexes that they crack, the solid wood prevents this final flexing.

 

Merl1n

[st0ric]

Well I guess I will get a Tuff anyway and try making a curtain like in this picture

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/500/roots_day14.JPG

 

If that doesnt work I will go with the dodgy roller storage box cheers guys.

[st0ric]

I would personally advise against the Tuff tubs.

 

I have 2x 160L, 80 site Tuff Tubs packed away somewhere and they were nightmares for leaks.

 

They have end clips only and still manage to warp the edges.

 

Ran rubber seal around the top edge and screwed down the lid and still leaked.

What flow rate pump would you recommend for a 30 site cloner, I figured I could get a small one to start and only utilize a small number of the sites until cash flow is a little better but how small is too small.

[The Rose of Darkness]

When it comes to aero, its not so much about volume of water, but more so pressure.

There are primarily 2 types of pumps, Magnetic Drive and Diaphragm.


Magnetic or "Mag drive" pumps are your generic aquarium pumps.

 

They do well at flowing water, but when back pressure is applied to them they will not have the "Ommph" to drive even the highest flowing misters/sprayers. Using a bigger pump will increase pressure, but at the cost of heat which will more likely cause worse issues in your cloner.

Diaphragm or "Pressure Pumps" generally flow less water, but can maintain very high back pressures which is more suited to aero.
They generally run externally which reduces heat and better cloning success.

An example of a Diaphragm pump.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-80Psi-Diaphragm-Water-Pump-High-Pressure-4Lpm-Self-Priming-Caravan-Camping-/281803094577?hash=item419cc5fa31

Then just a 12v 3amp power supply to suit.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AU-12V-2A-3A-4A-5A-6A-8A-SAA-Power-Supply-Charger-Transformer-LED-Strips-Adapter-/121491809743?var=&hash=item1c4979e5cf


13mm tubing to connect and some fine mist sprayers and your away

How many sprayers can connect to the pump?

Just simply divide the pump flow rate by the sprinkler flow rate

For example,

The pump above flows 4L per min.

If each sprayer jet flows say 24L per hour.

24L divided by 60 mins = 0.4L per hour

4.0L pump flow divided by 0.4L per hour misters = 10 misters

So your pump can handle easily 10x 24LPH spray jets