First grow. Female or Hermie?

[Skink]

Weeping Angel, I have been growin weed for 46 years, I only use hermie feminized seeds, I pollinate one lower bud per plant, very early as soon as buds start to appear, there is usually a few natural stray seeds in the top of the plant, these ones are 100% feminized and will produce no male plants.

if you leave an unpollinated plant in the ground long enough it will produce a few stray seeds,100% female, this is called rodelization, it is the first method used in Holland to produce feminized seeds, what has happened, the plant has gone hermie.

how can anyone not be happy with hermies, why pay for feminized seed when you can grow your own.

 

Angel, if you checked the scientific literature available on Cannabis, you mite not be so rude as to what you say is inaccurate.  

[weeping angel]

Weeping Angel, I have been growin weed for 46 years, I only use hermie feminized seeds, I pollinate one lower bud per plant, very early as soon as buds start to appear, there is usually a few natural stray seeds in the top of the plant, these ones are 100% feminized and will produce no male plants.

if you leave an unpollinated plant in the ground long enough it will produce a few stray seeds,100% female, this is called rodelization, it is the first method used in Holland to produce feminized seeds, what has happened, the plant has gone hermie.

how can anyone not be happy with hermies, why pay for feminized seed when you can grow your own.

 

Angel, if you checked the scientific literature available on Cannabis, you mite not be so rude as to what you say is inaccurate.  

That's the thing mate, I've done my research so I can safely stand by what I've said knowing it to be accurate.  Since you are unlikely to believe me though I recommend downloading all these ebooks in this post for a bit of light reading...

https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/topic/66379-tons-of-cannabis-e-books/

 

The reality is that every single cannabis plant is a hermie and even with genetic engineering I highly doubt that you could change that fact as the flowers are to two sides of the same coin and have a proven history of coming in every imaginable combination of the two genders and then some especially in some of the older under worked lines of hemp.  Our more worked drug varieties have less potential for variation but even still since the genders are essentially the same it makes the hermie trait fundamental to the survival of the species and impossible to completely remove.  You can breed massively tolerant plants that only show hermie traits on their deathbeds or when forcefully induced by the grower which give the appearance of having rock solid plants but when push comes to shove they too will be able to have their gender reversed making them hermies at their core.

[Skink]

Weeping Angel, when you say that all Cannabis plants are hermie, do you mean males as well.

I totally agree that all female Cannabis plants are hermie and can produce male flowers and pollen at will, but no-where have I ever seen or heard of male plants producing bud and seed, if anyone has please let me know.

[weeping angel]

Weeping Angel, when you say that all Cannabis plants are hermie, do you mean males as well.

I totally agree that all female Cannabis plants are hermie and can produce male flowers and pollen at will, but no-where have I ever seen or heard of male plants producing bud and seed, if anyone has please let me know.

Have a look in the link I posted for the file called hemp breeding.pdf

 

On the first page they talk about hermies and actual males popping up in feminized lines and on the top of page.  On page three they talk about hermies breeding hermies and plants transitioning between which they say couldn't be definitively seen as a single flip but a progression between genders where any kind of combination is possible.  On page four they talk about greenhouses causing hermies on seed stock that don't always do it in the field which proves environmental influence on gender which they again confirm at the top of page six.  At the top of page seven they confirm that even when crossing a hermie to a completely different and seemingly solid lady that you still get hermies in the offspring.  On page eight they cross massively male dominate hermies to each other and out of eight plants that bloomed six were ladies and two were males and without a mention of them being intersexual it's probably fair to say they must have been pretty rock solid gender wise but it just goes to prove that even when you make maninized seeds? fatherly seeds? I'm too tired and stoned to work out what the hell we're supposed to called them but whatever they're called they too just like their feminized counterparts will produce plants of both genders.  At the bottom of page ten and on eleven they talk about XX and XY chromosomes and how they find hermies all over the place anyway and last but most certainly not least at the bottom of page fourteen they talk about the ancient species having a single gender and considering it "very unsatisfactory" that mutation theory aka evolution is likely to blame for the shift towards having two genders.

 

Even though its 90 odd years old and written by evolution haters their work on hemp still applies to us as it tells us that gender isn't as simple as XX and XY chromosomes in cannabis and that even worse is that hermies are fundamental to the species because it is the original gender and what we perceive as males and females are merely those traits pushed to the extreme with underlying survival hermie traits just waiting for a stress induced trigger to surface.

 

Now if you go back and look at my first reply you'll see why I said I studied...

[SukonmiSkunk]

i could chime in here and say youre both wrong.. but..

[Matanuska Thunder]

i could chime in here and say youre both wrong.. but..

+1

[weeping angel]

I for one would honestly appreciate learning the most accurate information available so if you truly know better please post the information you have.  It would help me be a better grower and stop me from spreading apparent misinformation in an attempt to help fellow growers so please teach me all you know.

[brick]

All in the interpretation of what you are reading and the creds of the writer. A female can self pollinate without being hermie (now that is what I have read and believe) I have found a very small number of seeds in some female plants I have grown, were I did not find pollen sacks but they were there.

These seeds were all fems. Producing these seeds did not take any potency from the resin glands.

 

A hermie will have sacks all over the place and they use heaps of energy producing seeds which affects/effects the potency of the plant. That is why most growers pull them and throw them out. Also they don't want their good fems to get fertilised.

 

That is in the Growers Bible. And a few other books I have read. 

[Skink]

As I asked in earlier post have you ever seen or heard of a male plant producing buds and seed, other than in the literature.

Most of what I know about growin weed comes from 46 years of growing experience. I have seen hundreds of female plants go hermie, of every type of strain, in fact I have never grown a female plant that didnt have seeds, often as few as 3-4, sometimes many.

By pollinating one bud early this nearly always stops the plant from producing more seed.   

[louise]

As I asked in earlier post have you ever seen or heard of a male plant producing buds and seed, other than in the literature.

 

Yes.