Recovery time and methods

[Cyclone]

Hey Stoners.

 

So I have had some issue recently with DWC water temps and subsequently Pythium. 

 

 

To manage the problem I have:

The water temps are now at 16 deg from a water chiller.

I have been running Pythoff for two days now, adding daily with just A+B

Room temp is between 21-24

PH:5.8 - 6.0

Plenty of ventilation

 

 

So the wilting happened pretty quickly, went from lush to wilt within a few hours,

and despite chilling the water down and running Pythoff, they haven't sprung back, nor did I expect them too.

 

The root zones look decent, not pristine white but not muddy either.

 

So I was wondering whether I should cut the plants back a bit, remove the wilted foliage and allow the plant to regenerate

or leave it as it is. Seeing as its trying to recover from shock / stress in the vegetative stage, I didn't want to stress it out more by cutting it back.

 

Also, what kind of rough time frame with the chilled water and pythoff can I expect it to start vegetating again, I need to get these bitches flowering soon!

 

 

Thanks for the input Stoners.

 

Cyclone -

 

 

 

 

 

[Naycha]

Sorry you've run into issues, I know how heartbreaking it can be.

 

After 2 days and no recovery I would cut my losses and start fresh. I'm sure you will do better starting again than trying to salvage those.

 

I know that's not what you wanted to hear but that's what I would do and have done in the past.

 

Naycha

[spider_b]

I had similar issues mate, i dont have a chiller (long story) so i have ditched the dwc for now and the plant i took out trimmed all the old roots back to within 1 inch of the net pots and potted them into coco,and have them in a hospital drobe   watering with pythoff and nutes ,  mine didnt get as bad as urs and seem to be recovering

 

at the stage urs are I agree with nay pitch em and start again

Edited October 25, 2014 by spider_b

[Cyclone]

Thanks for the input guys.

 

Is it worth cutting them back and seeing if they start vegging within a week? 

The root zones look decent despite the top of the plant being wilted.

 

I don't have the time to start again before I have to take it down. 

So I'm trying to do what I can to bring them back. 

 

 

Cyclone - 

[Naycha]

If it is impossible for you to start over I guess there is no harm in trying.

 

Naycha

[merl1n]

Hey Cyc,

              That don't look too good at all. All plants have a 'permanent wilting point' and once the plant has reached this level, no amount of nurturing will bring them back. I have known of growers who have ripped infected roots off and used pythoff to remove any bacteria, but the results were less than impressive. If that plant hasn't improved within a few days I'd say you have reached the PWP and I'd be cutting my losses.

 

Merl1n

[Joey Genovese]

Hmmm inspections..I hate them . I hate pythoff too. Your water temp should be at 18-20. They seriously look fucked, I would persevere however, not sure about cutting back? They honestly look like they have had the cunt watered out if them! I like your framing, nice and tidy room bro! I would ditch that pythoff, cut back on the feeding ( if your over feeding?), how often are you feeding and what is it growing in? I know what the other blokes are sayibg. But all plants can come back, it's just that if u do preserve u won't get the result u norm expect. I would give it another week to see what happens. I personally believe they will come good if you tend to it right.

[Joey Genovese]

Oh and ph should always be between 6-6.2 like this chart will show u

[merl1n]

Hey Joey,

Welcome to Ozstoners, lots of great info and people round ere. Go have a good look around

Now....Plants can comeback from wilting, with that I will agree.

But they cannot come back from their permanent wilting point.

In biological terms the permanent wilting point is classed as ".... If moisture decreases to this or any lower point a plant wilts and can no longer recover its turgidity when placed in a saturated atmosphere or humid chamber for 12 hours..." Quote from U.S. Dept of Agriculture.

Basically the plant has used all moisture resources available to it, be that air, soil and it's own reserves and as much water as you want to give it, it ain't ever going to recover. That is considered a plants permanent wilting point.

 

Merl1n

Edited October 31, 2014 by merl1n

[Joey Genovese]

Hey Merlin, thanks btw that's interesting...I'll look into that bit of info. I've had this happen once before (perhaps not this bad) that's why I personally thought they would come back. I wish I could be there, to be able to have a go.