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We are in trouble people. many people are, and my wife and I personally. She is in a very bad way.

Read this. I know it is long, but it explains a lot (in general and our situation)

Please. All of us know peopel who are in pain. Some far too ill to grow. many have no chocie but Ocycontin as they are allergic to other meds. However the Oxycontin formula just changed as of June 2014 for Australia (it is bad, not as good, makes people sick, it changed in the USA in 2010). Do a search yourself. The new stuff is "tamper proof" (contains plastic & other nasties). Have look here.

http://www.drugs.com...new-315593.html

and while you are at it learn about the bad state of pain troubles in SA. People have had to flee the state. Doctors are scared to death. I asked one doc (pain doc) why he could not prescribe for my wife and he said :"You of all people know that life isn't fair". That is the world we are in right now.

http://www.dfps.org....f-pain-problem/

People can no longer get pain meds in SA. Not really. People are dying, some commiting suicide from pain. Not long back SA had a world recognized system of pain mamagement. Now it is the worst in the western world.

Nearly everyone on pain meds in SA is being forced off of them. Those who can have fled the state but many are too ill to leave, need their family support and it is all HERE, are supported by a family business located here.

Of course the more pain you are in, the more medicatoin you will need (and not all bodies work the same) but for a whil there has been new management at the SA DDU (run by ONLY addiction specialists, not pain docs anymore ) and they are certain EVERYONE is a drug seeking junky. They know nothing about the science of pain or how to treat it. They also belive all bodies work the same (look up "CYP450 2D6" on the web and find out we do not :

* The Cytochrome P450 enzyme CYP2D6 is used by about 25% of drugs. All the prescription and non prescription pain meds use this liver pathway in some way to get the meds to work.
* in approximately 10% of Caucasians CYP2D6  allele is missing (no way to get those meds to work)
* in 35% of Caucasians there is completely non-functional CYP2D6 allele
* So 45% of white folk get ALMOST NO pain relief from ANY pain drug (most pain meds have a partial secondary pathway that gives weak relief).
* 7% metabiloize them so fast it is dangerous.
* 7-14% have a slow acting form of CYP2D6
* between 15% and 30% (depending on what you read) have a WILD variation, many of which do not work well

so that makes 75% to  81% of white people, who do not get the expected results from pain meds

*** What Rann Did ***

Rann put the anti-drug warriors of the methadone climic system in SA in charge of the Drugs of Dependency Unit (the people who say if you get any strong pain meds) and tehn made an open door (no questions asked) policy between them and the medical licensing board.  Doctors aere at risk and patients are screwed.

So in teh old days you got a refereal from your GP to any number of types of specialstist for a diagnosis and if you need pain management you were evaulated by a specialist ( pain specialist or another realated field) and sas a shrink to prove you are were nuts or out for easy drugs, and then you usually got at last a big part of what you needed (as nothing is perfect). NOW you get sent ONLY to a ONE SORT of pain specialist who is also PETRIFIFED to go agaisnt the D.D.U. prejudices.

The DDU of SA destroyed Dr Ean Buttfields practice (he can't see patients anymore) and he is nationally & internationally respected as a pain specialist & on a a national Australian board for pain management - all for treating people in pain properly. He was treating a woman with an odd bone disease. Her bones were litereally turing to powder and had many breaks all over. It started with her knew cap breaking one day for no apparent reason. She is in utter agony. Her family started the Pain Patient Rights Organistion from the link below.

http://www.dfps.org.au/

Now she lives full time in the Royal Adelaide withotu any real pain management thaks to the new DDU. She cannot even manage to tollerate a hug for her husband.... she is just dying very very slowly and in unbearable agony. And they are Catholics, so no suicide for them.

*** PREJUDICES AND NASTY HEAD GAMES ***

The new DDU LOVES to play games to make people just go away.

They "loose" patients records mysteriously, claiming never to have heard of patients who have been treated for many years. Then the GPs and specialists must gather and send all their old records to the DDU all over (if they have them all) with the specialists letters of authority (the letter that proves they can get treated and in what manner)

And then the records get "lost" again... and again... My wife had hers "lost" 3 times in one week once. Then again 6 months later... and again in 18 months...and several times more. She is far from alone in this.

When her GP changed practice to another area, they of course used this to "lose" them all again, forcing the new doc at that surgery to find them all & send them all back. When her READ those other doctors notes he was scared for her survival at their hands, and tried to get her more help. That was not enough either. They made her go through evaluation all over again (against the law) several times, each with a new doc until they got one who said what they wanted to hear. He old pain doc in now retuired and was the best in teh state and a diagnostician to boot (like "House" only nice and not popping vicodin).

My wife is far from alone in this experience. Of course if you send them what they need often enough they try another tactic. They force you - as they did with her - and against the act the DDU is run under- to go to a new pain specialist... again and again and again

The DDU of this era jerks patients around, trying to get them to go away and give up,. They send them to specialist after specialist UNTIL they get the answer they SEEK - and only one answer is OK. THE ANSWER?

* Everyone is an addict
* nobody needs meds
* you are all just seeking drugs
* if you are on them then reduce your use and then stop.

People who are in too much agony to be willing to stop their meds, get sent to drug detox (regardless of theri health or the risk). You medical records are of no interest. There have been a lot of suicides (there are some listed on that LINK and some letters there too - explaining why certain group members are going to kill themselves and when (and even how).

Now days only ACCREDITED PAIN SPECIALISST can prescribe pain meds in SA, which massively reduced who can do it. No longer can other specialists who MUST deal with serious pain do that part of their normal job as was the norm for many decades. So the orthopedists, rheumotoligists & oncologists have to send their patients to another doc - and they KNOW what the answer will be. If you ar enot goin gto die (and quick) the answer is no (or a tiny amount and then they take it away).

Hospital pain clinic watiting lists are 4 years & longer now because so many docs who USED to treat pain cannot. The private and public pain docs are terrified so they ALWAYS give the answer that the DDU wants to get.

They are (of course) taking away my wifes meds and she was told bluntly in 1997 (as she resisted narcotics until she was starving to death) that she HAD to take pain meds FOR LIFE to live & if she did not treat her pain she would die. She was told to look at it like how a diabetic needs insulin.  AS teh DDU began to jerk her around I started researching her conditions to find answers. I was amazed at how little most docs knew. What I found did help... a lot.. bu tnot enough, and not THAT fast.

On our own (hating the meds & being abused by the DDU, not trusting them, we found SOME alternative ways of treatment (damiana, devils claw, brahim, turmeric, Macuma, DL Phenalanine, schisandra, MSM) but they have limits and $$cost$$. On her own & with my reseach, my wife has more than halved her pain meds & the DDU want her off all of them. No choices.

*** IT JUST GOT WORSE***

Ib 2010 the USA started using a new anti-tampering for of oxycontin to stop "drug abuse". All it really did was send the Oxy users to other narcotics - mostly heroin of unknown ingredients and strength instead  (and they are dying by droves in the USA now).

http://americannewsr...-heroin-8814984

In June 2014 Australia went to the same *BAD* forumla. Canada went to it in March.

http://www.drugs.com...new-315593.html

This new one has nasty ingredients that make many people ill. It does not seem to work as well either and takes longer to kick in. Many people have bad reactions to it. This is all over the web & has been since 2010. The new formulation has a plastic binder instead of a wax matrix, and it contains butylated hydroxytolulene (BHT).

In June My wife was swapped to this new formulation.

*BUT* My wife was found to be highly allergic to BHT when she was 4 years old! She CAN'T take it safely. We wondered for abtou 40 days why she was feeling so bad andy why her allergies were playing up dangerously.

http://www.rightdiag...tm#symptom_list

She has not had any BHT since she was 5 for a good reason. We did not know it was in there until yesterday night. The plastic causes her bad enough instetinal craps to not want to use it...but the BHT is not doable. She is going ot have to quit and way too fast.

She CANNOT use other pain meds as they were all tried. She has a lot of allergies and many meds do not work right on her. Now she has constant bad allergic reactions with her throat very sore, it is hard to swallow, she has terrible abdominal cramps. EVery common BHT allergic reactoin is in full swing in her and getting worse.

She *did* have over a year to finish going off everything, but now she is screwed.

We are too sickly to grow & I could not get gorwing to work if I tried in this condition. I am far from well now. Caring for my wife (whjo I love more than my own health and life) through all of the DDU and doctor abuses of the last huynk of years (in whidh she came close to death several times) has reuined my health too. I am in a lot of pain (guess what I don't get for much longer... no matter what the hard sceince says - although I almost died in 2006).

Our daughter had to stop school to take care of both of us & she (like her mother) is a real honest to god genius (talking at 2 months, soudned like a uni english major by 5). My wife had an IQ over 200 and was in Uni at age 9 in a special program desoigned around HER. With proper medical care she is STILL an asset to any nation. Without it... she propably just dies.

We just want to live. Green would be good. Fantasic. Pain Killing. A real solution.

But I am not a kid, in years 10-12 or in Uni.  I am in my 50s now. Man I grew up very straight laced (I escaped a bible basher family) and I never though I would even have an interest in all this. As my own pain meds drop, I am less able to help her with the medical stuff that *I am the one who knows. I taught myself herbalism, accupuncture, all sorts of things to help her pain on a pension budget. Now days, after years without even a beer, I have had to take to keeping a wine bottle by the bed so I can sleep and a vodka bottle for very bad nights. My body is broken & they are taking away MY meds too (of course).

We are so sick we only leave the house one time each month for food and doctor visits. One day out of 28.  No other people are in our lives but the three who live here. We live out in the Riverlands on land with realtively low spraying because WE MUST. You see my wife and I also have Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (or so our Mainstream hospital dianostician of 37 years heading the department says) and the wife gets seizures from going into town. She has to use an oxygen tank to go into town at all. We are too ill to go anywhere we don't HAVE to go to (and HAVE TO means we will die if we do not - I went to hospital after I blew an artery & lost 5 units of blood into my belly, not before). To us, hospitas are damned dangerous places. The air inthose palces sends my B.P. up to about 210/140 (and that can't be treated other than by avoidance).  We have to eat all organic ($$$) and live all green as we react very badly to all the poison humanity created for a quick buck.

- nothing nasty in our house ever. New items all have to outgass - sit in fron to fans on teh otehr side of the house... to remove all that petrochemical stupidity.

It is amazing when you live out in the country (going out a bit further with each move, for years, until you finally manage to buy an old place) that you realize how BAD the chemicals stink in a standard suburb shop (chemists are really bad).

When you get this sick your friends sort of drift away. After all you are not fun to be around. There are too many rules for people to want to visit you. Even if I knew how to contact the few people I knew who smoked back 15 years ago (I don't) I could not drive that far. Dead god how I wish I could get her a few ounces of widow (I can cope somhow...  I know she can't and she is more important).

We are uttlery isolated due to disablity. We don't know anyone but each other and our daughter anymore. Our daughter has grown up with this, had spotty education... and even so at 10 she was mistaken when online - fomr some much older uni graduate (quite often). At least whatever part pof out problems are genetic - she was not exposed to the chemicals that pushed it along.

We know the pharmacy meds are bad for us. Oh yes we know.  But I have so many types of pain (as my wife does with her own) that we had to use them. When the pain is off the scale, adn you invent a new "10"  on your 1 to 10 scale...what choice is there? What choice did we have?  Now all teh pain meds go away. My wife will have to stop her last 100mg or so VERY rapidy in order to not have anaphylactic shock as she cannot keep taking allergy pills constanly forever - and al;ergies get worse with each exposure.

This is dangerous. OF course with the DDU the way it is, she will NOT be able to swap medication (and there is nothign to swap TO for her). All that is left is cannabis, and I cannot grow in my condition. we known no people face-to-face at all anymore (definitaly not contacts in that world).

We have one tiny bag of old dried up leaf from about 2005. A few seeds form my won strain form wehn I was well enogh to grow and before we got any real pain medication. Old seeds. Old leaf. No contacts.

We need some very very quite medical compassion clubs in Australia.

 

 

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Hey Painman,

                       I have a clear understanding of your predicament, I too have to manage chronic pain, something I believe many people have very little understanding of. The idea of "You have pain, take a panadol" is offensive and shows a complete lack of understanding for those  trying to manage unresolved issues of pain. In saying this I also have practical knowledge in the area of addiction and understand what the DDA rules are and why they need to be revised regularly. But to place a blanket ban on their use is inhumane. DASSA do have a role to fulfil and there is a need for DASSA in regard to addiction, but as an information service and not as a regulatory body. We are not all addicts and to label us all as addicts is very unhelpful.

Like your wife I have been referred to the RAH Pain Clinic and it seems the easiest and most convenient answer is to say it is a psychological issue. Last year I had 2 major operations, at a review I was informed that the body has healed fully after 6 months maximum, so any pain is NOT related to the surgeries. The surgeons have 'fixed' the problem, meaning it must be psychological. It seems I am imagining the pain, which would be great as I should now be able to imagine the pain away. I have been a thorn in the side of the medical fraternity for many years, labelled everything from an addict to a mental case even after being diagnosed with a known condition. But it is much more simple to label me a nutter than to actually query what the hell is going on. When I queried I was asked if I intended to sue the practitioner , which I had/have no intention of what so ever. In my view if they did not operate, I'd be dead. It's that simple. I'm looking for answers, not blame.

For me, I know I can become easily addicted, so I try to maintain minimal use of pharma concoctions. They mess with my insides something terrible. I have not been able to cut them out of my pain management regime completely but I am certainly not taking them at their "recommended maximum dosage". It has been Cannabis that has allowed me to be able to manage this at a level which is sustainable.  I grow my own, for me. I make my own oil, for me. I make my own hash, for me. I do not sell or swap as then I'll run myself short. Growing my own is simple (hell, if I can do it, anybody can) I control the environment, I control the plant and being semi automated, I can do so around my pain and ability. Like my pain its all a case of management.

Here on Ozstoners there is loads of information. Personally I'd recommend you start in Cannaversity (tab at the top of the page) it gives you a decent overview of differing methods of growing. Grow diaries are also good in that it shows you what others are doing. You can also learn from other people's errors. If you decide that you are going to grow then the forums can be fantastic for obtaining answers to specific problems you may come across. The membership here are brilliant in sharing knowledge, we all have hiccups, we all have things we aren't sure of, so ask.

 

You state that you can't grow due to differing reasons, primarily your own health. Instead of looking at the obstacles that prevent you from providing your own medications, start looking at how you can. You don't need a huge area, you don't need special chemicals. Start simple, then improve. Have a change in mindset and make a plan. Use the resources you have. US.

 

Best of luck with it all, and if you need help, then ask.

 

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You just said it all Merl.

 

I do know how you feel PainMan it sure dose get on top of you some time's,But then it is time to get on top of it.

 

I to find it hard to grow some times as well but there is always ways around that problem take Merls advice an do a bit of reading here an make things work for you,Plan the growing system that you will use to grow your weed with so the system works for you an you don't work for the system.

 

Plan your hydro grow system or grow system  so you don't have to check on it every day,as I have good days & bad  days    because some days I cant even get outta bed due to pain.

 

Make a self watering system with a timer an water pump Its simple.

 

I count myself very lucky as I live in the west an have good under standing doctors that know I use cannabis to help me with my number of illnesses an as Merl said I to don't use the prescribed  amount of medication they prescribe for me to take.

 

Read up an best of luck with your growing.

 

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Merlin, thanks for the reply. I'm sorry your going through this junk too but glad you can manage to provide some reliefe for yourself.

I do hope that I can somehow find a way to learn to grow well, and find the energy to do it.  "Ease of growing", (or ease of anything else) depends a lot on the person and their health. That is why so many places with compassion laws let carers do the work (or clubs).  Obviously not all people are equally capable.

I managed it a little here and there a number of years ago when my wife was in serious danger, but I never did get good at it. I also had a lot more "me" to spend on things then. These days I have a lot less muscle (muscle wasting) and I am easily exhausted. I tend to need about 18 to 36 hours of sleep (yes I know - a massive amount, but that's how it is).  You can't tend you babies very well if you are not awake. Then of course all sick people have limits and the sicker they are the bigger the limits are. I was in touch with some American blokes who were very sick and they had to have professionals set up a home system FOR them and then tend it for them.

Our case gets more complicated because we cannot do hydro due to the wife's sensitivity to all things petrochemical (100s of thousands of untested items). That means growing under light in soil all organically which requires lifting a lot of heavy soil mix.

A functional grow space requires work to make (lifting, building, etc) and then you have to be able to care for your plants. Your setup really needs proper air flow of course, with low levels of humidity so that you have low fungal spore levels in the air (or your clones die off) and that also means maintaining a clean house. Maintaining a clean house is another thing a very sick person can't do., and having other people come in to clean (if it were affordable - it isn't) cannot be done if you grow. You just can't have people wandering around your home.

It all seems to get so complicated. All anyone can do is try to hang in there, and do their best.

Our daughter helps us but she is having to learn to do everything, and she is young. Because my wife has a lot of stomach issues I have to keep handling the food cooking, and that (and the medical care I give to her) takes about all I've got - which is an issue in winter because I am the only person large enough to split & haul wood so we don't freeze. I used to be a fairly big weight lifter, but I've lost about 25 Kg of muscle so doing that sort of work comes at a cost (and even with torn muscles, you don't get to rest the nest day). . Every winter I just have had to force myself to cut wood for the fire anyway and haul it in. That that means torn muscles that do not heal properly  - smaller ones every year.

I honestly wish that there was a way to shove people like Abbot & Rann into the bodies & lives of sick people who are in pain in this country.

What gets me, with all this "you are not in pain" crap, is that it is easy to scan a person's brain for evidence of pain. There is a fair amount of research in this area right now to even figure out WHICH KIND of pain a person is in from a brain scan. There is also a way to know ahead of time if a pain med (about 75% of all medications) have any chance of working normally on a given person - all based on their genes (it takes a blood test). There are even way s to tell how much of a medication a person really takes and how well it is working. However most pain docs know none of this, and what they do know about, very few of them do any of it. They never bother to do simple 'morphine trough level' (or equivalent).

As for those brain scans, for some reason the physicians who deal in pain issues just do NOT do that sort of testing, even though the machines to do it are at the hospitals.

It is so odd, that doctors do not bother to check a patient's substance-P level, their dopamine level, their cytochrome P450 function, or do brain scans - when they CAN do this and have a lot more information.

While doctors they ignore ways to get solid facts - the same docs are quite happy to claim a pain patient is lying; and (although they have no mental health training at all) they are also quite happy to give a pain patient a psyche diagnosis; which is about as medically appropriate as having a podiatrist do the surgery for a rare form of neurological eye trouble, or having a sports medicine doctor do a triple heart / lung / liver transplant.
 


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I understand your limitations, both physically and emotionally, for both you and your wife. But again there are other ways to manage and if you do it properly an hour a day is ample to manage.
I say 'an hour a day'. I run my system 'lights on' overnight, I only enter the room when lights on for about 1/2 an hour, in the morning and night I check and top up, fluids about 15min twice a day. That's it. On the good days (which are few and far between) I may spend a couple of hours on a weekend flushing my system, but that is broken up into shorter periods over a longer period and not 2 hours straight. Even at harvest I break the time down into what is manageable for me. Where there is a will there is a way. Here are some pics for proof, you can do it too
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I do have a question for you. What petrochemicals are you using? No such stuff goes anywhere near my grow. I use no hormones, no genetic modulators. I need natural and I need quality and for this reason I grow my own. I control everything in the room (its about the only thing I have control over lol ) nutrient, air flow, light and I train the plant to get the medicine I need. Now I must admit it has taken many moons to get my setup to work for me and when I started there was no Ozstoners to ask questions, so a lot was trial and error. You have a HUGE resource right here. Use the resources you have to your benefit.
 
As for the medical profession.......Don't get me started. In my view some Dr's are just University qualified assholes "I have a degree, I know more than you do. So that puts me above you". But I need the dr's, I need them to write scripts, I need them to make referrals and yes, I need their knowledge. What I don't need is their attitude, their judgement or their arrogance. But I have to smile and agree with their pompous attitude and thank Christ I don't have a gun in my possession lol Arrogance and ignorance are never a good mix and when it comes to pain management there seems to be an excess of both.
 
My advice for you is start to make a plan. How? Where? What? If you get stuck or are unsure about anything THEN ASK. No mountain is unsurmountable.
 
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Hi Guys.

Not much to add to help Painman. I know nothing about growing indoors.  But I wanted to comment on some things Merl1n talked about.

 

I am going into have my Cervical spine fusion redone on 11th Aug.

I have a great GP and use Skype to consult with my pain specialist in Sydney.

 

4 years ago I had my first surgery,C6-C7 fusion, because after 2 years of stuffing around the doctor found a huge disc bulge. I got the best surgeon at great expense and  took out Private health cover and waited 12 months for my private health cover. Without health cover it would have run to $60,000 +, and I wanted the best Doctor.

 

I spent the last 4 years in more pain, than before surgery. Like Merl1n, I felt like the doctor over time wanted nothing to do with me, and I was just a pain in the arse to him and the receptionist ( fuck me, some of them are stuck up and difficult).

 

After repeated long drives to Sydney to get 10 mins face to face with Neuro, I was getting worse, He considered the operation a success, his words. I ask him how he can claim it a success when I've been in constant pain for 2 years. He  looks at MRI number 3 ( latest at the time ) and tells me how technical brilliant a job he did, with the position of plate and screws and fusion. He declares its Neuropathic pain and tell me he can not help me any more. I feel abandoned by the guy I put my faith  and a considerable amount of money in to cut my throat and drill my spine.

 

He wants me to see his mate a Neurologist to try and diagnose problem. It took 2 months and 3 phone calls to get a referral, the new DR is a absolute idiot, he doesn't even listen or barely makes eye contact. He tells me Its all in my head, there is no reason for my pain. He continues with " you can get a 2nd opinion , but it really would be just wasting everyone time".

 

He concludes that all I can do is try a pain clinic and take medication for rest of my life. I'm a 47 year old Aussie male, worked in construction all my life and I cried like a baby, walking back to my car. He writes a letter to GP and says " He seems to be having trouble accepting that there is nothing more that can be done surgically to relieve his perceived pain, and I recommend a pain clinic to help him adjust to these psychological pain perceptions"

 

Doctors can be unbelievably  insensitive and arrogant, but some are truly great. I went to a private pain clinic and got a great Dr. He understood everything, offered up some interventional procedures, not just pills. Ultimately it didn't work ( Radio frequency denervation).

 

Very latest MRI done after failed denervation, showed something very small and barely mentioned on the report, just a bulge at level above fusion and my pain guy was unsure of its significance. I suggested going to  new Neurosurgeon to get a opinion on the MRI, we both knew I was clutching at straws, but he recommended guy to me.

 

I get a appointment to see new guy almost 4 years to the day after my surgery, I had 5 MRI in my hands and a bunch of letters.

 

The very 1st thing he asks is where is my CT scan, I tell him I don't have one, He had that "oh fuck really" look, but played it cool. I asked what is the problem?

 

He says that since I have had continued complications post surgery, a CT should have been done around 3-6 months post surgery to confirm if bone fusion is good. He says its only a very small chance it has not fused, but he wants to be sure , before moving on to other investigations.

MRI's are not conclusive with bone, very good for soft tissue etc. He admits that he is very surprised that my last Dr didn't do a CT, but only after I push him a bit to comment.

 

He sends me over the road straight away, for CT scan.

 

I hear nothing for 4 weeks , because he was off on holiday, but had appointment when he returned, I wasn't expecting much.

 

He told me straight up, and showed me the pictures, the bone never fused. I am shocked, because all the MRI reports and other DRs have stated the fusion was good. The CT shows it very clear, its a mess in there like a set of dogs teeth. Bone trying to grow together from above and below.

 

I'd been telling my Neurosurgeon for years it felt wrong, it clicked, clunked, cracked when I move my head and the arm/hand pain numbness is the same as before surgery, but now my neck is constantly in pain, my neck muscles are never relaxed and burn with pain. But my

Old Neurosurgeon he knew better...........

 

So in 2 weeks I'm getting the whole job done again, with bone harvested from my hip this time. " The Gold Standard" as the new  Dr called it.

 

I am so happy that maybe there will be an end to this pain, but I am very angry at old Dr. I was treated very poorly, as a blemish on his impeccable record, as a whinger and a sook. But I was right.

 

Don't give up people, get 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinions. I know it takes money and a lot of time but Drs make mistakes are wrong sometimes, keep looking for a Dr that will listen and treats you with some respect and not imply your crazy or a drug abuser. 

 

Best of luck to you Painman and Merl1n


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Hi Husky you are so right, my brother suffered for 10 years and eventually died this year from the same kind of arrogance, when he eventually found someone who would listen to him he was too far gone to help. Luckily pain management in France is not so backward as it seems to be here in some states. 

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Hi PainMan,You sure are getting some very good advice from the guys here at ozstoners.

 

Don't give up mate keep at it mate an thing will change for you an your wife I am sure of that.

 

You should try an grow indoor it is a lot safer,AS you have said you have grown cannabis before,Try growing in coco use the Canna brand of coco as it is not treated with crap chem's like a lot of the cheaper brands of coco.

 

Coco is very lite an when filling your pots with coco just  use a small ice cream container to transfer your coco from its bag  to your growing pots that how I transfer my coco as I cant lift much weight like you,use organic nutrients for growing your plants,an buy a 24 hr timer some black plastic tube an fittings & small water pump to use to pump the nutrients to your plants an buy a small grow room that you can put together from a hydro shop or from a online hydro shop,all this is very simple to do an set up your own cannabis supply.

 

Put a door lock with key on the door to your grow room so only you or your daughter can get in there,that will fix any snoop's from seeing what is in there .lol

     

You don't need really big pot to grow the weed in mate if you turn your girls to flower when they are still small you will end up with small plants an  scrog grow with netting an train the girls over the mesh netting that way you keep the girls short an they don't  grow high,plus you will get a lot more weed that way of growing in a small space lots of head yummyyyyy heads for you an the misses.

 

Go to the section here in the forum's on Grow Diary's an do a bit of reading up on how to grow with a scrog system It is very easy to do an it will really help you to understand what you must do to grow cannabis,It is only a weed don't forget that a weed an you know how well weeds grow don't you.lol

 

An don't feel like you are silly asking us crew here on things that you may not understand as you will find that all the crew here will be more that willing to tell you an help you understand what things stand for an how to use them an if there is a easy way to do something or the hard way to do something,We are ONE big family here at ozstoners an we always help each other with advice.

 

Merl is a inspiration  to me on how he grows his cannabis,an if I ever feel bad & down or depressed I just think of Merl  or another mates wife that is a member here as well an what they put up with,As my problem's are Fuck all to what they go through, an it is  the same with a lot of other OZStoners grew that are members here,As most of use have health problems,an just to think about what they put up with is enough to help me get my shit back together an rise above my little problems.

 

So as they say you will never know unless you give it a go. :twiddle:

 

All the best to you  PainMan  & your wife an to anyone else out there with ill heath. :give_rose:

 

              Kind Regards,Dingo-2008. :thumbsup: :peace:


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