Victorian loophole for legal pot use

[mrgoodcat]

You will not find a single case of legal medical cannabis in Australia. The only "loophole" is to get on a plane and go to another country.

 

You cannot import cannabis due to an international treaty made with the rest of the Commonwealth. So even if you did get a prescription, you wouldn't be able to import it through any kind of TGA regulation. Speaking of the TGA, it is a completely private company, owned by people who sell pharmaceuticals. Their job is to block natural remedies, not allow them in any way, shape, or form.

 

To give you an idea, the last doctor I heard of actually prescribing was a Greek guy from NSW, named Andrew Katelaris. They took his medical license off him over it.

 

So, if the medical authorities' response to cannabis is to take a doctors license away, how do you reckon they look at people like you?

 

What I think would be interesting is if you took a photo of all the doctors and lawyers using weed, and posted them on the internet. All of a sudden, their voices would rise up in unison (to save their own skins) preaching about what a wonderful medicine it really is. It's really quite disgusting, when yout think about it.

[hashwizard]

I'm in NSW. I recently went to the pain clinic where they've been treating me [unsuccessfully I may add] for over a decade. At 1st I was a good boy & did as I was told, swallowing this & that because "sometimes it may help". The side effects of these wonder drugs were quite disorienting, disturbing & nauseating, so I refused to take their shit & offers of trying more useless crap & learnt to handle my pain as best as I could. To my delight, I recently found a puff of mj everday deals with my nerve pain significantly. Nerve pain is very difficult to treat.

I thought these female Dr's would be pleased that I had found relief. Instead they gave me a hard time for using an illegal drug. They shut up when I looked them in the eye & asked "Do you 2 realise how distressing nerve pain is?" I've found relief & sleep like a baby every night, for the first time in years. I've lost the little respect I had left for the medical profession. The Hippocratic Oath means little when it interferes with profit. Sad fact of life.

I thought we were close to getting mmj here in NSW, as a result of the recent parlimentary review. Unsurprisingly we're no closer. There is an obvious resistance to relieving others suffering with mmj.  Pressure to tow the company line is coming from somewhere. I once thought it must be corrupt officialdom but the Drs attitude towards my relief of suffering would suggest the Drs themselves are under pressure. Where else would this pressure come, who is the medical industries biggest non-governmental financial supporter?

 I have the choice of 1; suffering in silence or 2; conduct criminal behaviour to relieve my suffering all because Big Pharma can't make a buck out of our beautiful herb. I'm unable to relieve my suffering legally because a pack of greedy grubs can't make a buck. If that aint Evil I'd like to now what is?

 

My prediction is that within time, Big Pharma, in conjunction with Monsanto, will reveal a GM mj plant [patented off-course] that will be sanctioned by the government, Dr's & big business. Everyones got to be able to make a dollar right? Arseholes.

[The Hash Nibbler]

Doctors are schmoozed by Drug companies.............. all those Free samples in his office didn't come from nowhere. Doctors are regularly given 'incentives' from large pharnicutical companies, including Lunches disguised as " product release information sessions" and various "presents" they recieve for using said companies products.

 

I think its disgusting, its akin to a politician taking kick backs....... and a true reflection on the shite state of the medical industry.

They never release figures from people who die from prescribed medications, but I've seen it first hand, and its disgusting especially in nursing homes etc.

 

Medical Cannabis will NEVER be approved, and if it is, these Fat cats will be the first with their fingers in the pie.

 

Nibbler.

[hashwizard]

Couldn't agree more Nibbler.

 

Dr's have become very good at many medical procedures like reconstructive surgery, organ transplants, joint replacement & the like. But what does the pharmaceutical pills actually CURE? Our medical industry has been taught by Big Pharma to treat symptoms, not the cause. There's little money in curing disease.

 

In traditional Chinese society, it's the local Dr's job to protect his patients from illness. If a patient becomes ill then the Dr hasn't done his job.

 

There have been many cures for cancer. Anyone who's had to watch a loved one dying slowly in agony, should be outraged to know that a cancer treatment was discovered in the 1930's. Dr Royal Rife cured 100% of patients after being sent home from hospital to die when conventional therapy failed. Instead of receiving a Nobel peace prize, Dr Rife was literally driven to drink by the foul attacks from 'colleagues' jealous of his discovery, ignorance & sheer indifference to human suffering.

 

Take two groups of cancer patients. Give one group conventional treatment [Chemo, radiation, surgery.] Give the other group no treatment. After five years there's no difference in survival rates, it's a fact.

 

There have been several cures for cancer & Big Pharma has wielded it's influence to have these cures & their discoverers discredited because most are natural, therefore unpatentable, cures.

Read up on Dandelion root powder [Google 'Dandelion root powder cancer tutor] It's a liver tonic, immune booster & a cancer cure [probably due, partly or wholly, to the fact it boosts ones immune system thus allowing the body to defeat the cancer.

 

Sources: Nexus magazine:)

 

P.S. Nibbler, you forgot to mention the free weekends away at the Pharma co's expense, at fancy resorts for prescribing X amount of product.

Edited November 4, 2013 by hashwizard

[brick]

Just have a look at the ABC's Catalyst show on colesterol. Scientist are now saying colesterol does not cause heart attacks. The second part to the show was not allowed to be televised. All that medication to reduce colesterol with the myriad of side effects (some of which I am feeling) being sold for years and it is all bunkum.

[DoctorWho]

I personally believe that if by some miracle medicinal access is allowed in Australia that we'll only have access to mixtures of cannabinoids made my pharmaceutical companies.  I really doubt that we'll see anything like in the USA, we'll simply be told that medicinal access has now been given and any other form of cannabis is an illegal street drug.  Politicians will come out with lines like a cancer patient wouldn't be prescribed a poppy garden and told to make their own medicine so why should that be the case with cannabis?  They could also claim a system like that is needed to stick to the UN convention on narcotics and stuff like that making the kind of medicinal access people need impossible to legally get.

 

It doesn't help with all the money in the medical industry that others have mentioned.  They'll push for total control if medicinal access seems inevitable and knowing how anti-drug and corrupt our politicians are they'll probably buy it hook, line and sinker

[hashwizard]

Exactly brick.Statins are used to treat high blood pressure. Independent studies prove that statin drugs improve blood pressure for less than 5% of patients. [i wonder if this info is what wasn't shown brick?]  Drug companies know this, their own tests showed the same results, but it's such a profitable drug. Drug co.'s are about profit foremost. If they happen to help some people on the way, then that's a bonus.

An article in Nexus magazine on statins, said that many patients conditions were made worse by statins & deaths contributed, in part or wholly, to the use of statin drugs.

This is a well known example of Big Pharmas ethos of profit over any sense of responsibility. I think the expression is they 'Don't give a shit.'.

Edited November 4, 2013 by hashwizard

[louise]

To give you an idea, the last doctor I heard of actually prescribing was a Greek guy from NSW, named Andrew Katelaris. They took his medical license off him over it.

 

 

[Stoned Offroad]

Bit late to the party but I have a mate (still a mate) who swears he got prescribed weed legally by his doctor years ago to treat insomnia. This was in Victoria.I think this was overseen at a federal level. He is not the type of person to talk shit either. Will try top remember to look into it.

Edited November 4, 2013 by Stoned Offroad

[hashwizard]

I think your 100% correct DrWho.

 

It was Big Arnie who got the mmj thing going in California, wasn't it?

Yeah, I can't see the day that someone cool like him will become Premier anytime soon.

 

What we need people, imo, is to start agitating with well organised civil non-violent demonstrations. And for gods sake divert the lunatic fringe, the greenies, away. [Tell them someones building a McDonalds over an ant mound in Narromine. That should work.] We need to project ourselves as NORMAL everyday folk.

 

 

 

Stonedofrd, was your mate prescribed pot or a pharmaceutical preparation? I was asked about 12 years ago if I'd like to be part of an mmj trial. I declined because it was a pharmaceutical extract & some would receive a placebo.

Edited November 4, 2013 by hashwizard