Abbott set to sign highly secretive TPP agreement this month

[-RiverRat-]

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/business/abbott-set-to-sign-secretive-tpp-agreement-this-month/
 

Full story ^^

 

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The TPP seeks, among other things, to rewrite the global rules on intellectual property enforcement that would give Big Media new powers to lock users out of our own content and services, provide new liabilities that might force ISPs to police our online activity, and give giant media companies even greater powers to shut down websites and remove content at will. It also encourages ISPs to block accused infringers’ Internet access, and could force ISPs to hand over our private information to big media conglomerates without appropriate privacy safeguards. You can see a more complete list of new restrictions below, but it appears that the TPP would turn all Internet users into suspected copyright criminals. In fact it appears to criminalize content sharing in general.
 
 

Im not sure of the the actual ramifications of this but it doesn't look good to me for an even playing field come the future.

 

Is this anything to be worried about ?

Edited October 6, 2013 by -RiverRat-

[bufo marinus]

Anything to worry about rrat?... I'd suggest look at what note the last Liberal government ended on,... then double the octave.

[Stoned Offroad]

That sounds well and trully fucked up RR, but also like it's in accordance with the globalist agenda.

 

Fracking for coal seem gas just seems so evil, chuck in some GM patent infringements and some internet surveillance and you've got yourself a good old fashioned liberal party orgy.

 

I hate how these motherfuckers are selling us out before our very eyes. I think they realise the tide is turning in terms of public awareness about all this corporate control over local/state/federal govts. (ie fascism) and are desperately grabbing as much as they can.

 

On a state level in Vic, when the libs got in you didn't hear them say boo for about 4-5months, they were too busy carving the place up for development. Looks like the federal libs are launching into a similar plan, only with far greater ramifications for us as a nation.

 

Thanks for the link RR, I've been looking for an aussie based alternative info site.

[Faith]

I think the fact is being overlooked that it is not one 'party' or the other-they both have the same master at this level-JG and Labour haven't  removed  gst and gave us a new one -You put your faith in a political system?  check out the UN  and consider the 'sustainability' and environment' rhetoric-these are total control measures and in your hearts you know it.  Our pride constantly nags at us saying "that can't be"  "we control our destiny"  and the truth is WE control NOTHING if not by Grace. They all the same lies by different tongues and our sheep-like (ovine, I believe) loyalties to politacal parties which are just satan's monkeys is ridiculous in my eyes.  How has it worked over the last 2000 or so years?  Any b etter? are we evolving into our true higher state of being (which is Holy) or regressing into base emotions and physical desires-consider the consumeristic bent of world society today whilst in the same breath the world preaches sustainabilty and peace?  They don't go together.  It saddens my spirit when we place soo much of our hopes and dreams, yes Faith in a system that lying, evil and corrupt -directed by none other than the original proud liar-No govt will ever save us and that is a fact.  there  will be some who will appear to do so with feel-good 'we're doing the right thing' flourishes but when we live through the eventual outcomes the Light is shone on them-the results speak for themselves.  Greed. War under false justification, moving toward total control of food sources-yes you should be concerned but the point I'm making is to constantly finger point at the other, we are mistaken greatly.  We point the finger at ourselves for our apathy and greed.  The UN requires only a very few thinkers-none of us are required or wanted to think with a free spirit/mind.  Our children are being educated/indoctrinated into a system that they will not be able to change due to llack of free and critical thinking skill-yep flash lights big motors and tits is what floats their boats and that is becoming 'all they need/want to know.  The world owns you.  In Christ we are slaves never.

 

Peace and God's rest. v

Edited October 7, 2013 by Vinno

[kilindi]

that looks like a whole mountain of bad news right there. what's the current deal on internet censorship too? i believe turnbullis trying to push it again. between that and this, the internet isn't going to have much going it! i truly hope this doesn't come to pass...

[Ford Fairlane]

As a scholar of the environment, I really don't get this whole green movement is trying to get us BS. It is plain as day that the environment is fucked. Just look out the fucking window, Our country is being overrun by by introduced species that use more than their fair share of sun, water and nutrients, the waterways are poisoned, the atmospehere contains to many heat absorbing molecules.. For life to flourish we need to ensure a healthy envirnment is maintained. I really don't see how looking after the planet equates to controling the masses.

[Faith]

If it purposed an entity to control every facet of human life  the UN agendas exhibit the process w/least overt knowledge to humankind in general, in kind giving them a 'feel good' and 'holier than thou' stance on anything that doesn't fit the mould.  This is the way it works.  Yes, the original despised merchant selling death disguised as 'life'  co she couldn't accept that he alone was not in control of his existence.  this fight leads to misery and death.  The earthly realm is but the morning of the first day.  Many cannot accept that-call it 'fairy tales"  That is their prerogative and free will is a gift.  Its like the kids-you don't want your kids to love you because they are afraid of you or what they might or might not get because that clouds their thinking-messes with their spirit-we can see this in families today. We want them to love us because they trust us, because they see peace and joy in our faces, because we LOVE them.   I don't speak of inevitable doom.  Because there is hope in Christ Jesus.  this is by faith cos if you have faith (TRUST) in Christ and lovingkindness to you neighbor (LOVE) in humility and acceptance yes even Joy.  This is impossible when serving the spirit of the world which is satan's desecration of creation. Lucifer thought he could run his own race and do it better than god-fuelled by pride cos that's one of his names. Wannabe god.  satan is also in power of this earthly realm and can do as he pleases to those not in the Son.  this is by the original temtation and subsequent fall from grace of humankind-we chose the pride of satan back in the garden and so it began. even moreso now. You see, most long for the same state of the earth, but unwittingly doing the work of evil.  this can be as simple an act as purchasing cheap woolies milk.  Food control is well underway...and it has a way to go proportionally to the speed at which technology is developing....no need to go into monsanto and big pharma to illustrate.  Every kind of evil is more prevalent and quickening ... this is the Truth-we will all bow to Jesus whether in Love or in Judgement-no way out of it.  Yes, foolish even crazy for God but His blessings and Love leave me in awe.  In the Son we have redemption and His Righteous Peace.  If one is stirred by this consider where your feelings/thoughts/emotions are coming from.  i pray understanding of these things for each and every one of you.  there is no fear in the Holy Spirit for we are redeemed and yes even anointed by faith in Jesus Christ.

He is an awesome God, praise Him. glory to the Son. v

Edited October 8, 2013 by Vinno

[louise]

So I suppose Vinnio, it doesn't matter what Abbott (or any other human being) does because jesus will return and make it all better? 

 

Quite frankly, that sounds like an enormous cop out to me. You know Abbott uses the same book to justify his opinions and actions.

[The Stoned Jester]

sorry vinno trying not to be rude here, but i just have to ask can you please leave all this religious mumbo jumbo out of the posts - not all of us here go for that thing, and we fairly dont spread our views over the place either.

 

it seems every post you weave something in about religion.

 

state and church should be separate - so should cannabis forums and religion - thats how most of the problems in society are created some right / left wing religious nut getting into politics and wants their views as law / regulation. 

 

thanks.

 

P.S also please learn how to use the enter key / paragraphs ... all i see is a wall of text.

Edited October 8, 2013 by The Stoned Jester

[Faith]

Thank youi for your advice SJ-I was offering an alternative to your worry.  No need to justify my faith here-jus don't like it when people have troubled spirits.  Maybe I misunderstood some of the comments which  illustrated concern and  worry to my eyes.  I didn't want to exacerbate them, just a righteous alternative to the finger-pointing and political 'mumbo jumbo'. 

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He is part of who I am.

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What is wrong with the law of Christ? Do you know what it is?

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Most of the worlds current hassles are caused by financial invasion and the inevitable non-equity of resource distribution. In other words, pride > fear > greed

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Louise, not only followers of Christ know the Word.  There are checks and balances. You will know them by their fruits. 

 

I ain't gonna comment anymore cos I reall don't want to upset anyone.  Saying God bless or Peace be in you or Praise Him He is risen is just part of who I am, like the color of my hair or skin, my toothless grin or my heart. 

 

I did not lay judgement on anybody-offense comes from within yourselves. If I did, forgive me as Christ has.

 

Peace. v