any idea of approximate ratios?

[burner]

I'm making some hash. Going to be using an ISO quick wash to do the oil, and mixing the finished product with dry seived trichs to get a nice putty hash. I'm just curious as to what ratios to expect from say, one ounce of trim for oil, and one ounce of bud for trichs. Using the Afghan hermies from the last grow, tried to smoke a nug, but missed a seed and had the cone explode in my face, the smouldering shell casing landed on my eyelid and burnt half me eyelash. Decided to hash the lot not long after. Naycha, I hope you reply to this one, your knowledge on extracts on this site is second to none. If any one has a better oil method, beside butane extraction, do tell. Cheers all.

[AlwaysTokin]

Why dont you try collecting dry sieve with a light sieving to decrease the green matter in the dry sieve hash and then dump all of it in 250mls of iso and leave for 3 hours shaking every 20mins , filter and dry in the sun. if you want better flavour and that is your aim hence the query regarding ratios then you're going to need to have more dry sieve than the iso !! iso wont pull all of the turpenes and lacks in flavour the majority of the time...  keep your dry sieve and iso seperate.... If you want to max out your yield with iso-hash runs process the material through bubblebags with 20min mixes and then leave the hash in the iso for a few hours or so and filter ...

 

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[merl1n]

Hey Burner,

Personally I'd keep them both separate, that is your dry sieve and your iso. I find its nice to have a spot of iso on a cone or a sprinkling of sieve hash. On occasions I like a bit of both but Im particularly fond of dry sieve more than iso.  

As for your ratios, it really depends, some of my iso has dried out to a point that it is solid and needs to be heated to be used. I cud add sieve to it but it would need to be heated to be able to combine it together. If you added the triches prior to evaporating all the iso, that may work, but I'm unsure if this would eliminate the solid state of the iso. I think you'd find that the ratio would change with each batch, depending how viscous the oil you are adding the triches to is.

 

Merl1n

[burner]

Thanks guys, been looking at the sunny method, but just one question. Do you add the second wash, and subsequent washes to the previously evaporated wash, or do we keep the grades separate? Yes, I will be using the sunny method, kudos to iTiC:-) Once I have my oil, I'll be getting the hands dirty and hand rubbing the oil and dry seive into each other. Been doing hash like this every time I come across oil, probably because I like to sit there and chew the hash off my palms when I'm finished. This is the first oil extraction for me, hope I don't blow something up. Better check the home and contents!

[merl1n]

You can keep them separate if ya want or mix and evaporate the lot, which is more often what I do. So I don't "blow anything up" I  take my rice cooker outside to evaporate the excess iso. I use the rice cooker so there is no naked flames anywhere near the cooker. There was a house about 15-20km away where there was a large explosion, turns out he was making oil, inside the house with no ventilation. It seems there was no naked flames but the electrical spark from his fridge starting triggered the BANG.

Just something to be aware of.

 

Merl1n

[burner]

Cheers for that heads up, have a spot designated safe. Been to a couple of mates places the past coupla days. One swears BHO kicks ISO's arse, one says hexane, and one says that I should stick to dry, or try bubble. I can't get bags from my suppliers yet, but they can order in at request, maybe? I have my dry screens, but unsure if I could utilise to extract bubble efficiently. If I was to do the bubble in a bucket, then transfer through the screens, into another bucket, with a final strain through a coffee filter, to catch the trichs, would this be a feasible method. The first screen is 210 microns, the second screen is 40. I do get a very small amount of plant matter when I seive leaf, but nothing but gold when I do the bud. Will the screens be suitable, and will my proposed method work? Oh and which oil is best? Edited May 1, 2013 by burner

[merl1n]

I've found its a case of each to their own. Some ppl say iso, some say BHO. For others they like hash. Personally I like them all . But hash is my personal fav yummy

See if ya can find some different sizes of mesh, I got my mesh from a screen printing wholesaler.

 

Here is some info from another member that may help

 

 

When making your own hash and making your own equipment first aswell before starting on the hash, it is best to buy a screen or two and either dry sift through them or use them as a filter for bubble hash. Different people have different preferences for screen sizes when making hash but these are mine, so you have a rough guideline as to what you want to buy. For bubble hash; if only using one screen to filter and one to catch then I'd go for 220 microns(m) and 25m respectively (like two Bubble Bags to get the most hash, add a 73m for three screens) but if say using 7 screens then I'd go for 220, 170, 160, 120, 73, 45, 25m (again like bubble bags). For dry sifting I use different sizes of screens. If only using one screen, with different rubs of varying ferocity, I'd go for a 135m screen. For two screens, however, I'd opt for a 150m and a 72m. Then vary it again for more screens respectively. Bare in mind that with the smallest size bubble bag you are catching resin on top of it without it falling through, but with dry sifting the smallest screen lets through the resin onto a collection tray. Anyway, enough waffle, here's the info:

Threads per cm: Mesh(microns): Thread(microns): Open Area(%): Price per m(£):
43 T....................150....................80.......................43.....................8.75
48 T....................135....................70.......................43.....................10.58
61 T....................92......................64.......................34.....................14.12
77 T....................72......................55.......................27.....................15.68

Mesh = open hole size.

 

Merl1n

[burner]

Ran an iso trial tonight, end result was tinged yellow on the dish, but turned a nice cadbury's brown once scraped. Pig that I am, couldn't help myself. Pinch of trichs, dab of oil, roll into a ball and burn away. Feel like I'm back in Istanbul, but I never fucking been there:-) Many, many thanks to the likes of iTiC, Merl1n above and those others who have posted the info required to make this first extraction an exceptional adventure! Can't wait to process the rest, cheers all:-)

[iTiC]

Hey Burner,

Personally I'd keep them both separate, that is your dry sieve and your iso. I find its nice to have a spot of iso on a cone or a sprinkling of sieve hash. On occasions I like a bit of both but Im particularly fond of dry sieve more than iso.  

As for your ratios, it really depends, some of my iso has dried out to a point that it is solid and needs to be heated to be used. I cud add sieve to it but it would need to be heated to be able to combine it together. If you added the triches prior to evaporating all the iso, that may work, but I'm unsure if this would eliminate the solid state of the iso. I think you'd find that the ratio would change with each batch, depending how viscous the oil you are adding the triches to is.

 

Merl1n

my god this man knows how to party "If you added the triches prior to evaporating all the iso, that may work"

work the warm goo into a crumble or a paste then apply 'as needed'

[iTiC]

I'm making some hash. Going to be using an ISO quick wash to do the oil, and mixing the finished product with dry seived trichs to get a nice putty hash. I'm just curious as to what ratios to expect from say, one ounce of trim for oil, and one ounce of bud for trichs. Using the Afghan hermies from the last grow, tried to smoke a nug, but missed a seed and had the cone explode in my face, the smouldering shell casing landed on my eyelid and burnt half me eyelash. Decided to hash the lot not long after. Naycha, I hope you reply to this one, your knowledge on extracts on this site is second to none. If any one has a better oil method, beside butane extraction, do tell. Cheers all.

Dry sieve does make a very clean iso oil. Mixing the two into a paste would be fun, but Id make oil out of that sieve if you have enough. Id keep that oil separate from any other oil you'd make. Fuck that'd be top shelf, pull it out once in a while sort of oil, while you and ur makes gorge on lesser oil, that oil will be curing away.

IF your QWISO isnt quite quick enough and you have a green tinge to the oil. stick the green mix on a shelf that will catch the morning sun; DONT sleep in . You dont want it getting hit will hard sunlight. filtered sun light drop a blind and extent the time if needed. Your aiming for an amber clour to the oil, changed from the green monster you had before. That shit will just give you a headache!

Refilter the next day, with a coffee filter

Evap as usual, low temps and keep the oil moving. There are several ways to vape, steam or a water bath etc. The golden rule is dont get teh oil too hot at any point. As soon as the oil stops moving. Keep it as thin in the pan as possible and put in the freezer. This will help rip the iso out. When solid, put back on gentle heat and work the remaining iso out, slowly. Rushing it, over heating, will just caramel the oil and reduce the quality.

Put up some pix when your done

Edited May 3, 2013 by iTiC