Nuterients For Outdoor Plants

[Cronic_la_jar_jar]

Sup guys

 

Hi my crop of Purple #1 this year wasnt a very satasfying crop this year as i heart i heard Purple #1 was a good tree for large build yields . I was wondering maybe it was a direct result of the shit i was putting on the plants . I am currently using 2 products and Cow and Chicken manue . I put both types of manue in the soil as i was planting the seed's . then when the plants reached knee hight and started to get some folage poured instructed amount of Charlie Carp witch is a fish oil based fertlizer on the base of the plants and thourgly waterd into the soil . Then a few weeks latter before budding i used a product called Organic Dynamic Lifter witch helped in the buds potency but not size or ammount .

 

my bud yield was lower then expecited . Am i dooing something wrong ? or using the wrong products ?. or am i just paranoid and the plant has a low bud yield cause when i use the same products on my tamato crop i can show you some of the best tammatos you will ever see in size,taste and amount .

 

 

chers

jar jar

[Luke Skywalker]

You are likely overdoing it mate. You've got the ph in a good range? And the drainage? Was there any tip burn on the leaflets? Then it's probably overferting.

 

Try using a single type of soil based soluble organic fertiliser instead of throwing 4 different types of organic ferts in there. The plants need little nutes when young, it's only really when they're powering onto vegetative stage proper, (after the slow growth seedling stage) and flowering that they need a fair amount of nutes, and deserve their title of "gross feeders".

 

All that being said, it coulda just been a crap strain for your conditions.... Some are more suited to northern climes, some to southern, some don't like alkaline soils, some don't like it too acid, there's so many variables just between strains, and although the needs are fairly similar, they can be different in surprising ways. I've got 5 strains in my gr at the mo, and making sure I'm giving them all the right levels of nutes and ph prefs isn't exactly the easiest excercise.

 

Tomatoes are of the solanaceae, so the comparison of tomatoes and mj as far as nutrient needs isn't really an accurate one. What works for toms, may not work for mj necessarily. If you can grow toms tho, you should be able to grow a decent yeild of mj, just with a little tweaking.

 

You could try just watering with organic poo teas too, considered that? That would give you a fairly good mix and still be readily available to the plants... If they're under or overferted, you just fert a little more often or less.

 

Hope that helps mate.

[Cronic_la_jar_jar]

Hey luke

 

Narr mate thier was no color detration in the leafes or buds thats what's im puzzeld about. The plant showed no signs of dieases or signs of to much nurtrients or over watering , However dranage im not to sure about it runs off nicely if thiers to much water but the plant soaked up most of the water i gave it . the bud's were potent and had a nice feel to them and are a exellent smoke . i was just suprised on the low yield in bud i recived , leaf was a diffrent story however i got plenty of that shit .

 

 

I thought Purple #1 was supose to put out nice medium sized buds and plenty of them . Maybe i just got some bad seeds *shrugs * . i got them from World Wide Seeds . But yeah luke ill try that next seasson as im not a experinced winter grower .

[Luke Skywalker]

Might just be one of those strains with a low calyx to leaf ratio. Ahh well. Better luck with the next round.

 

Yeah, drainage could be a key. Needs to be nice and aerated in the rootzone, not compacted down and hard... ya know? Sometimes if the soil compacts too much the water just drains around the plants and out again. The soil takes on some water repellent qualities, and it holds water on top for a while before it can draw down and out....

 

Just a thought.

[jaikai]

hiya chronic, mate you might of got onto `em too early...its only early march and im down south, plenty of time left yet for an established plant to fill out. to me a lot of them purples take ages to finish, do get a bit stringy too. the average season down here dont help get past that, although if youre further north you do get the opportunity to let `em go `til even easter or later...

 

maybe a thought for next season...

 

JAIKAI

[expansion]

I hope you didn't put charlie carp on direct. It's way too strong. Always water any ferts down more than the recommended dose. You can always add more.

 

As Luke said, tomatoes and mj are very different. Toms for example are more acid loving than Mj and so need a different soil and NPK mix.

 

At the end of the day, the plant will do what its meant to do in the copnditions it's grown in. It's always much harder to leave them alone than to tinker!

[wade ounce]

This season i stumbled upon an organic fert called "Terraphosca complete T.E."

 

It is extracted from blood n bone and seaweed. npk-11 4 8

It is 100% organic and breaks down super fast without burning.

 

I did some comparisons this season with using Terraphosca against Terraphosca with these added: sulphate of potash, sulphate of ammonia and super phoshate(mixed together).

 

Both mixes also had 500g of dolomite lime to control ph levels.

 

I was pleasently surprised to see that the plants that were only pre-fertilized with Terraphosca had just as much growth and yield as the plants that were grown with added salts.

 

Next season i will only be using Terraphosca in my outdoor mixes, combined with regular nutrient teas.

 

If growing in the ground i recommend fully to mulch plants with at least 4 inches of mulch. It will cut your watering down by half.

When mulching avoid contact with the trunk of your plant otherwise you risk the chance of getting trunk rot.

 

Water crystals are another terrific addative to your soil, but only use it at recommended rates. I've heard of growers using too much water crystal

and upon inspecting their plants have found water crystals have made the plants root ball rise out of the surface of the ground due to expansion.

[Cronic_la_jar_jar]

Hey killas

 

Expensation : yeah i put the carp directly on to the soil near the root area of the plants and waterd it into the soil ontop of the furtlizer already thier .

 

 

But yeah ill deffently check that terraphosca stuff Sounds good , see the problem with the outdoor area i have to grow is its a gap between the fence and my concret drive way with just a slab of soil . However ive been told the soil is premium shit . as where i live used to be fruit orcids . So i dunno maybe i need to test my soil , is thier some thing i can buy witch wont put me out of pocket that i can do that with ?

 

cheers

jar jar

[wade ounce]

Yeah dude, ya really should buy yaself a ph kit. you can pick them up from nurseries and hardware shops for under 20 bucks.

.

Having said that, i've never purchased one in my life

 

If the soil hasn't been flooded with chems recently it should be pretty rite.

i reckon its always a good move to throw in 500gr of dolomite lime into your hole before planting. This will keep your soils ph around neutral reguardless of how many nutes you choose to give your plant throughout the season.

 

best of luck with ya future grows mate