Clones Outdoor Is It A Good Idea

[Cronic_la_jar_jar]

Sup guys

 

Just Wondering , if it was even possible to grow clones outdoor and if you can is it a good idea ?.

 

cheers

Jar-Jar

[Luke Skywalker]

Clones/cuttings can most certainly be grown outdoors mate. It takes a little more effort than having total control of photoperiod, but it can be done.

 

The key is not to use 24/0 in the GR, and to take your clones from plants growing under similar condtions to the outdoor photoperiod. This will set their photoperiodic response initially. Now, as you come to late winter/spring, and you've got the mother plants just vegging along a little above the ambient rate, you clone them, and take the clones under the same photoperiod, not 24/0.

 

Then, when you plant out the rooted clones, all the while being careful to match photoperiods from in to out as much as possible, they won't get a shock of photoperiod and go straight to flower. If you plant out clones from under 24/0 and they go out into a crisp september day of 12/12, (as this is around when the equinox is, days get longer from that point.), then they'll just flower. And 2 inch clones with a few flowers aren't my idea of a huge crop. However, if they've managed to root and clone, from motherplants with a similar photoperiod so it too is vegging at these levels, (i.e. grow em from seedling at the photperiod it will be when you plant out.) then it should acclimatise fairly quickly, allowing for a hardening off period. And as the days will get longer from that point, the plants should really get stuck into a long veg, and would flower quite happily when they were ready.

 

Course, that's just my thoughts on the subject.

[Guest BudWaver]

Yeppers lukes nailed pretty much all of it...

 

Ill add that Ive heard of some mad crew using only clones to do their outdoor 2000 plant crops

 

Even with starting your clones on a 24/7 regimen then taking them outside...the light itensity ddepending on the time of the year will overcome the shock and onset of flowering...

 

Heck I had ones which went into flowering 4-5 times this summer

 

heres a pic of BC Kush x Romulan (Rom Pheno)

 

and

 

Titan (Rom Pheno)

Edited March 10, 2004 by BudWaver

[jaikai]

been doing it for years...dunno about the tech side of it though. myself, i just take cuttings late october off outdoor plants or anytime off indoor stock and put them in the garden before christmas.

 

JAIKAI...got some nice pics but still cant make them small enuff to put `em up...

[Luke Skywalker]

Hey jaikai, check out a little prog available for free on the net called Irfan View. Should be able to find it with a simple search. It's a simple free image manipulation prog. You can resize your pics easily using that.

[Guest BudWaver]

Second of Titan

[Cronic_la_jar_jar]

Sup guys

 

 

hey luke , Mate you just confused the totall shit of me . Im not making the clones myself im thinking about buying outdoor clones from mjoz . im just not sure if it was possible to grow outdoor clones as i saw some nice plants thier .

 

now what do you mean by 24/0 ?. Also is thier anything i can buy that can test my soil levels and see whats orignally in my soil , because the land where im on Used to be Orcid farms way back in the day . So if i buy a clone the way i planted my seeds would be diffrent ? . would i need to make any changes to my garden to grow outdoor clones ? .

 

cheers

jar jar

[Guest BudWaver]

Im assuming by outdoor strains they mean..takes longer to flower, grows much bigger...

[Luke Skywalker]

I was referring to the photoperiod. 24/0 is 24 hrs light, 0 darkness. This is how most take and root clones. However, if you plant out a clone taken in 24/0, and then plant it out in spring, at 12 12 or even less, then your clones will likely flower. If they don't revert to veg in a few weeks after that with the increase in daylight hours then they'll likely just end up as tiny flowering clones.

 

As BW said tho, some will make it through this, some won't. What I was saying before was that if you take the clones yourself at the same photoperiod as the outdoor conditions you'll be planting out into, then they'd likely just power on and keep on growing.

 

Orchids are usually grown in pots, not in the soil, although there may be some excess run-off nutrient or salinity probs in the soil as a result, as orchids are quite often fed on chemical ferts by commercial enterprises... May have been organic if it was long enough ago tho. Anyway, you can get soil pH and NPK testing kits from bunnings I think, have a look where they keep all the nutrients and insecticides, you should find something there. You could also send a sample to a lab, and they could tell you all this, but they'd likely charge a fair bit to do it. Still, you'd know exactly what was in your soil. You may have some luck contacting a local farming group or agricultural society, they may be able to help you find where you can get your soil tested cheaply.

 

And yeah, "outdoor" strains are usually just bigger growing strains. But not necessarily so. Only one way to find out.

 

Hope that alleviates some confusion cronic.

[expansion]

If they were good orchid growers they would not have used a lot of fertlizer. In the wild orchids live in the forks of trees etc, so they do not like soil so much, as breaking down humus. Their fertlizer needs are not that great and they fuck up if you give them too much. As Luke said, get a ph test kit from any decent nursery and go from there.