Sativex pain relief spray soon to be available in Oz.

[Outlaw]

http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/cannabis-spray-may-help-severely-ill-cope-with-pain-20121028-28djr.html

 

In its final testing stage. Sativex boasts no hallucinations or stoned feeling (boring). Should be available shortly. Another win for the pharmaceutical industry. No thanks. I'll grow my own.

[ethen]

I have seen this in news reports done by both channel ten and seven, they are sort of boasting it as a win for medical science..

Although sativex is extracted not synthesized I still see it as a synthetic pharma like the JWH's, Pharma companies just keep trying to find ways to chop and change the already stable and beneficial molecules.

 

Australia has a lot of catching up to do..

[jabez]

As I keep on saying sativex is a 50/50 THC & CBD tincture, which are the main active substances in the cannabis plant (its what gets you stoned when you smoke). They only act as a partial agonist at both the CB₁ and CB₂ receptors.

 

JWH-*** acts as a 'full' agonist on the CB₁ and CB₂ receptors, its completely different. Fair enough if you think cannabis in its organic form is superior, but comparing sativex to a full cannabinoid agonists is way off.

Edited October 29, 2012 by jabez

[ethen]

Ok I agree that comparing JWH to sativex is like comparing tofu to beef

 

I see it as a type of double standard loop-hole like there is in place with alot of ethnobotanicals, like how you can legally own a psilocybe spore print in Australia but to make a spore print a psychedelic mushroom has to be harvested which is illegal in Australia.

Why legalise a trial using compounds that are in a plant that itself illegal? Where does the resin come from? there has to be buds grown somewhere then processed, extracted, refined, imported etc..

 

why spend money importing medicine when if cannabis as a whole were legal we would save and could possibly even make money and support the economy by sticking to Australian made and Australia grown products.

 

Surely it is cheaper in the long run to have our own production like in Tasmania with poppies, because of this Australia has the cheapest morphine and codeine based pharmaceuticals.

[Stoned Offroad]

As I keep on saying sativex is a 50/50 THC & CBD tincture, which are the main active substances in the cannabis plant (its what gets you stoned when you smoke). They only act as a partial agonist at both the CB₁ and CB₂ receptors.

 

 

If that is the case then I wonder what they have done to ensure the user does not get stoned or hallucinate.

[Naycha]

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Surely it is cheaper in the long run to have our own production like in Tasmania with poppies, because of this Australia has the cheapest morphine and codeine based pharmaceuticals.

 

Maybe cheaper, but a system like that would be terrible. Australia happily lets a select few farmers in Tasmania have a virtual monopoly on growing poppies for extraction/synthesis of alkaloids. No allowance is made for any other citizen to grow poppies for their own medical use.

 

Naycha

[ethen]

I see that as better then handing over control to big time pharma companies like bayer and GW who currently control the sativex market,

Australia just seems silly, its like saying 'oh mescaline has medical benefits lets make it a legally available prescription drug, but if you have a psychoactive cacti growing in your garden you're a criminal'

Same with tobacco, grown your own and you're going to jail or copping a major fine but tobacco products are freely available to buy at most stores and anyone can go buy a pack of poppy breadseeds from the herb section and grow them to make opium

There are many double standards,

 

The government controls the market either way, whether its monitoring sativex in a trial or regulating cannabis they will always have the control..

like many documentaries say, it makes no sense when both growers and the government are agree on prohibition

We have a non stop loop where money is getting spent by the government to bust people then you see things like '18 million dollars worth of cannabis seized' in news headlines.

People will continue to grow as there is a large demmand for the product, more people get sent to prison as a consequence and the government eventually struggles to pay for police and the cost of living for the people in prison .

Just seem like it is an illogical and futile war the government seems to want to fight..

[ethen]

I think I would class having P. som seeds available in most supermarkets is an allowance for citizens to grow them even if it is illegal is someone wanted to theres not much stopping them,

I don't see hemp seed in the health food/ baking section and don't think I ever will

[Naycha]

Hulled hempseed are readily available.

 

I see that as better then handing over control to big time pharma companies like bayer and GW who currently control the sativex market

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A system like that of Australias poppy growing system is handing control over to big pharma.

 

Naycha

[haze420mist]

Apparently, I've been told by a mate his dads friend is growing hemp up north bit inland if I can remember in WA he is one of two in Australia or WA That is aloud to grow for research purposes.

 

We use hemp rope to load and unload heavy haulage at the shipping docks, can take a heavy load and if the hemp rope snaps is the only material that dose no lash/whip back when the rope breaks safety for obvious reasons.

[MongyMan]

Hemp is legal in most states in Australia...including WA....Industrial Hemp Act of 2004 WA

 

MongyMan