try to help myself by using cannabis

[Stix87]

hey guys and girls some may know that i suffer from ibs havent be diagnosed with it yet as there is no diagnosed for ibs but they just do all the other tests first then they say its ibs. iv had every test under the sun that i can think of iv had camera in the mouth x2 and camera in me rear end x2 and swallowed a lil camera a few months back and nothing i use cannabis so that i dont have to run to the toliet all day it auctlly stops me from goin wich is great so then i can go a bout my day. now i have been getting in some bad pain lately and being goin to hospital coz its really bad where i cant handle it anymore. well my second last visit to hospital was when i had a inflamed pancreas and they told me its from smoking cannabis i explaned that i only smoke 6 to 8 bongs a day everyday and they blamed it straight on the cannabis. then i went in the other day with bad pains and explaned i was in hear last time with a inflamed pancreas and they said its from smoking. we done some more bloods and nothing came bak so then they proseded to tell me that im killing my pancreas and that i will end up dieabetic and after that death i smoke for my problems and i also like to smoke with mates when ever i get to see them. well turns out the pain is from bad food i must of ate beacuse i had a bad morning yesterday iv only had 1 cone in days to let my tolerence drop a bit. not sure if this is in the right spot if not im sure some one will move it. thats it i guess

[Naycha]

The attached article may be of interest. Also contains references to the 5 other reported cases of Cannabis induced pancreatitis. Very little scientific research into this.

 

Naycha

 

cannabis pancreatitis.pdf

[MongyMan]

... i had a inflamed pancreas and they told me its from smoking cannabis

 

Sounds like they got no idea whats wrong so thats just an easy thing to blame. I'd be asking them on what medical grounds is that diagnosis based or is it just something they have plucked out of the air? (a bit negligent of them if they have imo) How does cannabis cause this? Why are so many people reporting that cannabis is a useful medication in the treatment of pancreatitis, the opposite of causing it? Is this a common thing or is it very rare that cannabis can cause an inflamed pancreas? Do they have references to cases of this happening? Is no way I'd accept that diagnosis without alot of questioning. If they are right I'd want to know what it was in cannabis causing it (it might just be a strain thing) If they are wrong and just blaming the cannabis as an easy excuse based on no medical basis other than a guess I'd be pissed off. Guesses and anti-cannabis bias dont help you get better.

 

A few links I found with a quick search that might be of help or interest......

 

http://www.joplink.net/prev/200401/02.html

 

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_marijuana_affect_your_pancreas

 

http://www.medicalmarijuanacorner.com/marijuana-pancreatitis.php

 

 

MongyMan

[Naycha]

Totally agree Mongy.

 

Here's a couple more for you Stix, arm yourself with knowlege (although I have to say my dr's get the shits with it ).

The endocannabinoid system and gut–brain signalling

 

The endocannabinoid system (ECS) consists of cannabinoid receptors, endogenous ligands and the biosynthetic and metabolic enzymes for their formation and degradation. Within the gastrointestinal (GI) tract, the ECS is involved in the regulation of motility, secretion, sensation, emesis, satiety and inflammation. Recent studies examining the ECS in the gut–brain axis have shed new light on this system and reveal many facets of regulation that are amenable to targeting by pharmacological interventions that may prove valuable for the treatment of GI disorders. In particular, it has been shown that endocannabinoid levels in the brain and gut vary according to states of satiety, and in conditions of diarrhea, emesis and inflammation. The expression of cannabinoid (CB)₁ receptors on vagal afferents is controlled by the states of satiety and by gut peptides such as cholecystokinin and ghrelin. Vagal control of gut motor function and emesis is regulated by endocannabinoids in the brainstem acting on CB₁, CB₂ and transient receptor potential vanilloid (TRPV)-1 receptors. The ECS is involved in the modulation of visceral sensation and likely contributes to effects of stress on GI function. This review examines recent developments in our understanding of the ECS in gut–brain signalling.

 

Involvement of cannabinoid CB1- and CB2-receptors in the modulation of exocrine pancreatic secretion

 

Abstract

 

The role of the cannabinoid system in the regulation of exocrine pancreatic secretion was investigated by studying the effects of the synthetic CB1- and CB2-receptors agonist, WIN55,212, on amylase secretion in isolated lobules and acini of guinea pig and rat, and the expression of CB-receptors in rat pancreatic tissue by immuno-chemistry and Western-blot analysis in both basal and cerulein (CK)-induced pancreatitis condition.

In pancreatic lobules of guinea pig and rat, WIN55,212 significantly inhibited amylase release stimulated by KCl depolarization through inhibition of presynaptic acetylcholine release, but did not modify basal, carbachol- or CK-stimulated amylase secretion. The effect of WIN55,212 was significantly reduced by pre-treatment with selective CB1- and CB2-receptor antagonists. The antagonists, when given alone, did not affect the KCl-evoked response. Conversely, WIN55,212 was unable to affect basal and CK- or carbachol-stimulated amylase release from pancreatic acini of guinea pig and rat.

Immunofluorescent staining of rat pancreatic tissues showed that CB1- and CB2-receptors are expressed in lobules and in acinar cells and their presence in acinar cells was also shown by Western-blot analysis. After CK-induced pancreatitis, the expression of CB1-receptors in acinar cells was not changed, whilst a down-regulation of CB2-receptors was observed.

In conclusion, the present study shows that WIN55,212 inhibits amylase release from guinea pig and rat pancreatic lobules and, for the first time, that cannabinoid receptors are expressed in lobules of the rat pancreas, suggesting an inhibitory presynaptic role of this receptor system. Finally, in rat pancreatic acinar cells, CB1- and CB2-receptors, expressed both in basal conditions and after CK-induced pancreatitis but inactive on amylase secretion, have an unknown role both in physiological and pathological conditions.

 

In a nutshell, those at the forefront of scientific research do not know how Cannabis affects the pancreas. Very strange that your Dr(s) assume they know more than the rest of the scientific community.

 

Naycha

 

Involvement of cannabinoid CB1- and CB2-receptors in the modulation of exocrine pancreatic secretion.pdf

The endocannabinoid system and gut–brain signalling.pdf

[Stix87]

hey guys thanks for the comments first time i went in with pain and they diagnosed me with inflamed pancreas throu blood tests then they just gave me pain killers and before they sent me home doctor come in and said its from cannabis use i bet ya if i said i wasnt a smoker they would of blamed it on something else. hey i auctully thought it could be from different strain as i have only started smoking my own as i had to buy commercial cannabis wich probley wasnt flushed right. i hate goin to hospital they always ask what other drugs i use coz i lost more weight wich makes me look like a junkie i always say i smoke cannabis and have no desire to use anything else. i read through most of the stuff you guys have kindly posted up for me i appreciate it .

[Stix87]

thanks for the information mate i would allso like to point out that the mrs did did a lil research on the net and found out some mould can cause inflamed pancreas i was sleeping in a room on me own and noticed that where i had been sleeping all behind my pillow was coverd in mould even all along the wall was covered in it. i told the dr the other day that i dont think its from smoking cannabis and he said yes it is i couldnt be botherd arguing with him. i also said why have i lost more weight he said from smoking cannabis.

[Matanuska Thunder]

time to change Dr's...

[Stix87]

this is not my doctor just a dr from hospital i have a gp that i have to see in the next few days/ next week

[bluntman_77]

i also said why have i lost more weight he said from smoking cannabis.

 

damn all i get is the munchies and getting fatter!!!!

Edited August 23, 2012 by bluntman_77

[Frazz]

this is not my doctor just a dr from hospital i have a gp that i have to see in the next few days/ next week

 

not trying to tell you how to suck eggs here Stix, but ..

 

GP = general practitioner, your presenting symptoms are beyond the expertise of a GP .. so you must ask for a referral to a see a Gastroenterologist, such a Doctor specialises broadly in problems of the digestive tract/organs

 

your own health is primarily in your own hands, unless you know as much as you can learn about your own body, in your case the the digestive organs and how they work, you put yourself at a huge disadvantage when it comes to managing your complaint

 

knowledge is power Stix

all the best in coping with this

[Stix87]

lucky bugger yeah i dont really get the munchies anymore doesnt bother me coz i cant eat junk food or fatty foods it just doesnt agree with dammit