New hydro setup - help

[chopperw33d]

I don't have much money, so I'm trying to save where I can. I might buy a CFL for the veg and a HPS for flowering?

 

 

Ummm I would save your money and buy a convert bulb.

 

400 watt ballast - $80 approx some hydro shops will have second hand. For a bit cheaper.

 

HPS bulb 50 - 80$ - you can veg with it.

MH convert bulb $80 - can be used in the white ballast for veg the use HPS for flower.

Shade - if heat us s problem spend the money on a cool tube shade.

 

Oso fan - 10 - 20$ from Kmart or big W.

 

Food- what ever you can afford. Cheap food is ok but you get what you pay for.

Stay away from element food in DWC friend of mine uses it. And gee the amount of problems he has. Really unstable in that system.

[joepad12]

Thanks chopper and everyone, I appreciate the help.

[forgetiwashere]

carbon filter is a must mate. especially if your venting it outside. dont think for a second that the wind will blow it away. blow it straight into your neighbours yard or straight out into the street in front of your house yes but away no. do not underestimate the stench of a plant in full flower. especially in a little cupboard where it can tend to get hot cause heat increases smell IME.

 

on the cheap this is how i would do it

 

2 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150MM-INLINE-VENTILATING-EXHAUST-FAN-220V-36W-PLUG-/390260868137?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item5add5c4429

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AIR-ACTIVATED-CARBON-FILTER-150MM-X-500MM-HYDROPONICS-/320901517723?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item4ab738919b

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CE-APPROVED-150mm-6-X-6m-INLINE-DUCTING-NUDE-DUCT-FLEXIBLE-ALLUMINIUM-/110873397797?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item19d091ca25

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brand-New-Hydroponics-400W-HPS-MH-Ballast-Cooltube-Light-Kit-YoYo-Timer-/140785705051?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item20c77b605b

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CANNA-COCO-COIR-BAG-50-LITRE-HYDROPONICS-HOLLAND-/200745247363?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item2ebd596283

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CANNA-COCO-1L-NUTRIENTS-ADDITIVES-FREE-GIFT-/220873833120?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item336d1b3aa0

 

1 of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HYDROPONICS-WALL-FAN-/230720313128?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item35b8009728

 

others might disagree but to me this would be an entry level set up. i know people do grow with less but in my opinion going with anything less than this would be a waste of money because i guarantee if you go cfl or cut any corners next grow you will just be upgrading and you will have wasted your money. do it right first time.

[forgetiwashere]

thats roughly $600 you will make that back in one grow and have loads of fun in the meantime

[forgetiwashere]

actually scratch all that im too stoned i just read your cupboard size and the 400w would be overkill. just setup a nice cfl setup. 1 inline fan for exhaust through a carbon filter a bag of coco some nutes and off you go.

 

you will be upgrading next grow anyway i would guess. just have fun with it

[joepad12]

Maybe not next grow, I'll wait and try a few different things first then upgrade

 

But, forgetiwashere, what wattage should be CFL be? and would you reccomend another bulb for flowering?

[forgetiwashere]

i dont have any experience with cfl's at all so i dont really have much i can help with in that department but the cannaversity on this site is pretty helpfull and has a lighting calculator.

 

oh and you can buy different spectrum cfl's for grow and flower. i have seen some surprisingly good grows on the forums with cfl's.

[joepad12]

Okay, I've decided to buy this 130w 6400k CFL bulb for vegging

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GROWLUSH-130WATT-ENERGY-SAVING-FLUORO-LAMP-6400K-/320896185118?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item4ab6e7331e#ht_2882wt_907

 

And then wait a bit and buy a flowering bulb later.

[the.weed.fisherman]

Hi joepad12,

 

I noticed that you are starting up.

You are really doing things on the cheap to begin with, this is ok.

 

I want to point out that even tho that bulb is awesome, and a good price, it requires an e40 socket base.

buying one of these isn't too hard, it is a standard hid lighting lamp base fitting.

but it will cost u up to $10 - $25 depending where u get it from.

 

If u are really good with soldering and u cant afford the e40 lamp base, u could carefully make a dodgy

light circuit, but i really really dont recommend it at all...ever.

 

alternatives are buying the lamp with an e27 lamp base or a b22 lamp base. but they will cost u about the same

as this bulb with an e40 light socket.

 

B22 130w 6400k cfl

 

E27 130w 6400k cfl

 

E40 130w 6400k cfl + lamp holder

 

or drop into ur local hydro store and get ripped off buying a flat pin e40 lamp holder.......everyone knows its a rip-off.

 

anyways....thought i'd take some of the pain out of your latest decision with a little thought for ya mate.

 

 

the.weed.fisherman

[joepad12]

Thanks the.weed.fisherman, the last option you gave (the e40 plus the lamp base) means I don't have to buy a socket and that's about the same price as the bulb alone.

 

Thanks for the help man, it helps having lots of different inputs