Coco peat

[Tom]

Webster's Dictionary Definition of Hydroponics:

Adj. Hydroponics - the growing of plants in nutrient solutions with or without an inert medium to provide mechanical support.

 

If hydroponics by definition uses an inert (inorganic) media can Coco peat (organic) be counted as a type of soil in a run to waste system? If so how would the law see it if you are in front of a magistrate charged with cultivation of your paltry 1 or 2 plants in states like WA? Is this a possible loophole or has the government covered this angle already?

[white_cluster]

inert - having only a limited ability to react chemically

 

meaning will not cause pH fluctuations or feed nutrients to the plants, nothing to do with organic and inoganic, ureaformaldehyde would not be classified as a totally hydroponic medium maybe.

[Tom]

ureaformaldehyde would not be classified as a totally hydroponic medium maybe.

 

Bakelite is used to make elctrical plugs and insulators, all types of electric fittings, distributor caps and, previously, TV cases.

 

Ureaformaldehyde has similar uses to Bakelite, but is used more often because it has the ability to be dyed.

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lau...reaformaldehyde

 

Ureaformaldehyde resins are the product of urea and formaldehyde polycondensation.

http://www.metafrax.ru/pages/english/e011.htm

 

"CAUTION: Under some conditions ureaformaldehyde insulation may cause the release of formaldehyde gas into living areas, and the development of adverse health effects.

http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/Statutes/TITLE6/6-38/6-38-4.HTM

 

 

Ureaformaldehyde (UF) reaction products represent one of the oldest controlled-release N technologies, having been first produced in 1936 and commercialized in 1955. Urea and formaldehyde are reacted together to various extents to produce polymer-chain molecules of varying lengths

http://grounds-mag.com/ar/grounds_maintena...rf_slowrelease/

 

Couldn't find any useful information on ureaformaldehyde being used as a grow media, but I don't like it already.

[white_cluster]

no niether, i dont think it is used, it slowly releases nitrogen into crops, but also formaldehyde or something, not to sure.

 

another medium that comes to mind is spagnum moss, I think it could fit your argument as its very acidic

[Luke Skywalker]

I think they'll be having a very hard time trying to define hydroponic growing. It may well be that they define it as an indoor plant, regardless of the media... there are some who would say that any indoor plant fed with nutrients which are not present in the soil/media it sits in could be called "hydroponic" regardless of it was watered by hand or by reticulation system.

 

It pisses me off. They make a law which purportedly removes some stigma which is attached to home growing, and if you look at it closely you realise it's bullshit....

 

I think a cocopeat growing plant, with only natural organic and pre-mixed nutrients, hand watered would cover it, and you'd never be allowed to harvest more than 30g at a time I think... But if it's growing indoors I think they'll still screw ya... depends on the judge, cops who bust you, etc, which is wrong.

[WhiteSkunk]

hey taz

great argument but in all probabilitys if you had 2 identicle peatmoss setups one indoor under lights and the other next door out

in the sun outside the one growing under lights will get swrewed cause its what they class as "indoorhydro" but the one nxt door only gets a onthe spot fine and a slap on the wrist when in all fact they were both grown hydroponicly as far as the courts and cops go anything unda a light is classed as hydroponic end of story.WS

[Chev]

If you were caught growing under lights, but in soil or coco, you'd have to have a relatively decent case to argue surely? Especially in W.A, I think you can have 2 in soil under lights.

hy·dro·pon·ics    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (hdr-pnks)

n. (used with a sing. verb)

Cultivation of plants in nutrient solution rather than in soil.

I don't see anything in the definintion of hydroponics that refers to lighting...........

as far as the courts and cops go anything unda a light is classed as hydroponic end of story

Well, if I got done for it, I'd argue my case and then some. The laws are wide open really, if they can use them to unfairly charge someone, you should be able to use it to fight back. There's no real 'laws' about lighting, correct me if I'm wrong, could be different for different states.

[Guest Wilderbud]

It depends what nutes/ferts youre using if its hydro or bio.

[Tom]

With coco you use nutrients specific to that medium which is another stumbling block, is that hydro or just using the best "fertiliser" for the job sort of like using tomato food and adding gypsum to break up the clay soil as well or using a water soluble fertiliser with each watering for plants in impoverished soil. Could coco "peat" be termed as an impoverished soil as can normal peat soil, it is organic after all and whoever heard of organic hydroponics mediums? ::

[pipeman]

Taz, as white cluster already pointed out whether its organic or inorganic really has nothing to do with it. And people do run organic hydro systems.

 

but, its all pretty irrelavent at the end of the day. Its would be like protesting to the judge that you are innocent because you were growing cannabis indica and the laws are only against cannabis sativa Somehow I don't think you'd get ver fary with it, don't you agree?