Sydney gets canabis clinic

[Wezz]

These "young people" may have mental problems, some of which may be excacerbated by mj use, granted, but which are present anyway

 

I agree...Personaly though I think the more money put into helping Social Services and the battler the better...BUT...Why not call it a Drug rehab or a mentle paranoid young persons coffee shop or something rather than make MJ look bad in the eye's of a lot of ignorant people.

[misstress morbid]

well....firstly i hate this sooo much...i am not saying that this is not needed, just that there are surely more important things to spend her money on...

what i am aiming to do...is to eventually grow not just enough for me, but enough to have some plants grow to seed, then to plant seeds everywhere...surely some will grow, so...

if u see any wild pot growing ...feel free to take some if u have none...but leave it to a piss non pot smoking ppl off...or the real purpose...leave it for some poor person(like me at the moment...i am too poor to smoke 7 days...generally only get to monday b4 i have to wait until wednesday all over again) this is such crap....and now that i realise growing isn't a science, i am doing it ...and i urge all those thinking about it to think...vvan i really afford not to grow???

i realise all won't agree with my sentiments, but thats ok....i can't please all....but anyone who wants to help...well gr8

ii can be contacted thru msn/e-mail whatever...

donation to the cause could be anything...lights...seeds...fert whatever...money i guess but would perfer other things....more practiacal...even time...if someone knows about techey stuff to do with setting up site well that s gr8 too...whatever

there so i thoght i would tell u all my crazy shceme....i will let u know how i go...

[white_cluster]

what are you setting up a site about? growing pot wild??

 

in my opinion its not such a good idea, people who are trying to grow marijuana will get there plants pollinated and seedy by your wild crops, people could get busted if the wild crop snuck up on there own land. the crop would grow poorly and it would be hard to find a place where pot could grow wild in australia, we have poor soils and alot of wildlife eager to get something greener than the average hard brown leaves native aussie plants provide.

 

Its a good idea maybe to do it out west or somewhere noone would grow cannabis for sinse, as an experiment, but anywhere where cannabis can grow well, it more than likely is being grown, and people wont like their crops getting ruined.

[syk613]

support for the mj user that wants to quit is long overdue as before the only real support was from narcotics anonomous etc, even medical books don't aknowledge the addictive properties of mj well, so assuming the community will is not reasonable. And setting up a clinic for habitual users doesn't mean it can't be used for med reasons ppl get far more addictive substances, like morphine, from doctors.

[budsta]

"If ya dont live life right, you can't smoke the pipe".

 

uhhm if you dont live your life right you probably shouldn't drink alcohol or take panadol or wank. That is fucking stupid.

 

If you don't understand that (which ya obviously don't) then ya shouldn't be smokin...

unless ya fukkin thick or don't have a conscience, which, unfortunately, is the problem with a lot of people...

 

& sky, NA - what a croc of shit... Sorry, I know some people may benefit from NA / AA whatever( I did myself for a brief court induced period!) ... I hate NA, why should I say " My name is xxx I am a drug addict, or I am an alcholic, EVEN THO I HAVEN'T TOUCHED DRINK/ A CLASS DRUGS IN X XX years". What's the point in negative reaffirmation? Get away from it to stop it - it's easy - believe in yourself! The mind is stronger than any drug! You don't need anyone else to tell you how to stop. All you need to kno is that the mind is stronfer than any drug...ANY DRUG...BELIEVE IT... if you constantly re-affirm that ypou are an addict - even tho you may not have sniffed it for 10 years - then what are you setting yaself up for? Derrrrr...

NO - set up life clinics, self help clinics, lifestyle clinics, just don't let's follow the AA / NA 12 step example of a self fulfilling prophecy!

 

Ahh I love being a cynic...

Edited November 11, 2003 by budsta

[Chev]

Well, pot isn't like narcotics or anything, but it can be very hard to give up for a heavy user.

But these clinics I think could do more harm than good, and not just to the cause.

Young people do need to know that pot isn't addictive, but you can build a psychological dependence on it. It's all in the mind I think. I think it's wrong to be saying it's addictive as such. It's more of a dependence, and if it was addictive, wouldn't you have the jones's once you came off, or withdrawls? Physically, it can't be addictive.

I think this is more about installing the 'fear factor' back into people, because the attitude towards MJ in Oz has changed, quite a bit here in WA.

[Guest IMPOSTORsiouxie siouxNON-MEMBER]

i new my ideas and ideals wouldn't appeal to u all....i know they r a little strange.

the dope might not be the best quality, it is just i feelthat if we did have mj growing everywhere, the overall price of even hydro would come down(well it would be easier to aquire cuttings or seeds, even if they might not be the best plants their would have to be some good plants amongst them...and i think it ill be easier to grow???)

i also think the goverment would think of some good uses for all that hemp, which can only be a good thing for the overall state of the enviroment.

i wouldn't be planting in ppls back yards, ( and if i was feeling particularily mischievious the ppl i would choose to have some mj in their backyards, well they would definatly not be even fined. ), rather in places where a bit of green vegetation would do the place a bit of good.

still i know its an odd idea, and i appreciate ur comments.....makes me have to think the whole thing thru again and again!!!

but on this though...sorry for going on a bit...stoned and happy ....ii really think we could be spending our money so much better.why on earth should this even be relevant in a world where children die from cancer, where ppl get killed for their race/ideas and ideals/ or saying./thinking the wrong thing. :angry: we need to be focusing on things that really need our help...ppl that 'have a problem'with mj abuse( very different from mj use) have after all, caused this problem themselves .generally problems from mj surface in other areas that are funded anywayz....from ashthma meds being on the p.b.s, to public hospital care for sufferers of mental conditions.

maybe i am missing some valid points here, and plz feel free to point them out.....this is only after all my view...which is worth shite!

[RobbieGanjaSeed]

I agree with WC entirely, except for his choice of growing out west perhaps "where no one bothers to grow sensi", or words to that effect.

 

Some of the largest crops in this country are grown on pretty dry barren properties out west. Square achres of them when I was younger.

 

Although times are a-changin'. But yeah, I've seen some filthy great sinsemella crops out west.

 

But of course, I understand wha u mean.

 

cheers

rob

[pipeman]

I have given up pot for about 4 days I think. So far so good. I am getting more done in the day, and night for that matter Should get back on the gear next week if I still feel good. I just like to stop every now and then to know I'm not depending on the stuff. still, its a lot easier to quit when you know you're going to get back on it again pretty quick

[syk613]

sky, NA - what a croc of shit... Sorry, I know some people may benefit from NA / AA whateversky,

 

Ok I think you misunderstood me what I meant was, imo and experience, the only help offered to ppl looking to get off mj is things like NA, and yes this is not good enough by a long shot, I said something like the only real help these ppl get is NA and yes if say someone has a psychotic attack and mj was being used the doc will recommend NA, its not the best alternative but it is the only one... until now

 

 

Young people do need to know that pot isn't addictive, but you can build a psychological dependence on it. It's all in the mind I think. I think it's wrong to be saying it's addictive as such. It's more of a dependence, and if it was addictive, wouldn't you have the jones's once you came off, or withdrawls? Physically, it can't be addictive.

I think this is more about installing the 'fear factor' back into people, because the attitude towards MJ in Oz has changed, quite a bit here in WA.

 

Ok Chev some of this isn't quite right if you doubt me then look it up for yourself.

Addiction:is a syndrome characterised by compulsive drug-seeking behaviour that results in an impairment in social and physiological functions or damage to health

Dependence: manifests in physical and psycological symptoms

And I don't have anything to back up my statement here, but I have seen studies talking about mild physical withdrawl symptoms.

Edited November 12, 2003 by syk613