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The NCPIC has enthusiastically embraced "Sativex tm" and are now bringing Medical Cannabis to Australia.

Is this a good or a bad thing?
I have a few thoughts on this but would be very interested to know what others think? :gathering:

For those who don't know what "Sativex tm" is, just click the link.

For those who don't know how the NCPIC are involved with "Sativex tm" and how the NCPIC is bringing medical cannabis to Australia, I will give a brief rundown below......

If you saw this thread "Questions for the NCPIC", you will know the NCPIC themselves appear somewhat confused about exactly what their position is regarding medical cannabis in Australia. :blink: :blink: :unsure:

Jan Copeland, Director of the NCPIC says...

NCPIC is not funded to work on medicinal cannabis as it is a specialist science.

NCPIC is not a source of information on medicinal cannabis. That is an important and interesting question for specialist scientists and they should be the appropriate sources for that kind of research.

We have no role in medical cannabis

Yes back again. I can only say again that medicinal use of cannabis is a specialist topic area and I am not a medical doctor. NCPIC is also not funded to deal with medicinal cannabis so that is why we don't comment on it in any detail except if I am asked in live media interviews but I make c;ear I am not expert in this complex area.

(1) The NCPIC have no role in, are in no way concerned with, nor involved in any way with, medical cannabis within the Australian community and nor are they a source of information on medicinal cannabis. Is that correct? Yes or No?


YES NO ROLE


But the truth is, the NCPIC does recognise the medical use of cannabis and the NCPIC itself is involved in bringing medical cannabis to Australia in the form of "Sativex tm" which is confirmed by the following quote from this NCPIC document ...

NCPiC researchers have been given sole rights to investigate the use of Sativex in the management of cannabis withdrawal. Sativex is a combination of THC and CBD in a
buc.cal spray developed by GW Pharmaceuticals in the UK. The manufacturers have granted NCPIC staff access to the drug and a matched placebo to use in a range of studies of its safety and efficacy in the management of cannabis withdrawal and consequently on the maintenance of abstinence from cannabis among severely dependent users because we have developed the only validiated cannabis withdrawal scale. There is an urgent need to fund such studies to allow NCPIC researchers and their collaborators to exploit this unique opportunity.


and is also confirmed by Jan Copeland who says......

....we conduct a range of original research projects, some funded by other research bodies such as NH&MRC. These include ...... our new study using Sativex for cannabis withdrawal which is a mouth spray of THC & CBD.

....GW Pharmaceuticals are providing us with Sativex for our upcoming trial but no financial support
....GW Pharma is a British Company
....We have NH&MRC funding for the Sativex trial which is around $270,000


The main aim and agenda of the NCPIC is to reduce cannabis use in the Australian community, so it would come as no surprise to most that the NCPIC would be using medical cannabis the way they are but it is medical use of cannabis none the less :yahoo:

Anyway. what are peoples thoughts on this?

And if you have any further information regarding this please post it here.
Strangely these doesn't seem to be much on the NCPIC site about it other than THIS. :scratchin:

And THIS from UNSW.

If you have any questions about the NCPIC 'cannabis addiction / cannabis withdrawal' Sativex trial, you can ask the NCPIC in this thread Questions for the NCPIC

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no surprise to most that the NCPIC would be using medical cannabis the way they are but it is medical use of cannabis none the less :yahoo:

it has its up side and its down sides
the up side ...imo....is the fact that australia now recognises that cannabis has medical benifits :yahoo: .......which now opens a previously locked doors in the legal system. :uhhuh:

the down side is, its just not the same and these mutts have cornered the law to suit them :ack:
so its still just as illegal and these mutts become hypocrits :ack:


good thread mongy :bongon:
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Thanks for that Mongy, very interesting. I'm not exactly sure what I think yet, I am very cynical of anything involving the NCPIC.

I would definitely like to find out more about what they claim to be

the only validated cannabis withdrawal scale

specifically how they claim to have validated it and whom it was validated by.

There is an urgent need to fund such studies to allow NCPIC researchers and their collaborators to exploit this unique opportunity.


What really stood out for me here was the word 'exploit', I can't help but think all the NCPIC are trying to do is exploit people.

Oh well, looks like I have a bit of reading up to do. I will try to look on the bright side as there are some possible benefits of this.

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IMO! just another way to fund their inane research. They have the exclusive distribution rights in Aus. This will turn into a power and politics game. A game with no winners except NCPIC.
NCPIC do not want people to grow their own meds. They want to control who gets what, how and when.:ack:
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Wow you are on the ball MM, this is most interesting.

So from what I understand they are giving it to people to stop them from smoking cannabis but that is not addressing the medical use of sufferers at all.

This form of cannabis is not effective for glaucoma patients but may work for other conditions.

Shame on the Australian Government for leaving defenceless sick people with no option but to break the law in order to obtain relief from a natural medicine that is approved in more advanced countries.
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if i try to explain how i feel about this it will turn in to a rant cos i'm so pissed off atm..... so thanks guys.. +1 you've already posted just about everything i was thinking but in a much calmer and articulate manner than i'm capable of :ack:

you :censored: jan :finger:


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if i try to explain how i feel about this it will turn in to a rant cos i'm so pissed off atm..... so thanks guys.. +1 you've already posted just about everything i was thinking but in a much calmer and articulate manner than i'm capable of :ack:

you :censored: jan :finger:


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Hear Hear Dani!

I really want to add my two cents worth but I just know I will go off on a page long ramble/rant and it won't nearly be as intelligible as what's already been said.

I'm seeing my doctor today. I'm going to broach the subject of Sativex and my use of Cannabis for pain relief (among other things). He already knows I use it, and he hasn't voiced any negative opinions or concern which I am very pleased about. :thumbsup:

Let's hope those fools with their head up where the sun don't shine wake up and smell the buds! :ack:
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NCPIC's stance appears to be that the cannabis plant has no accepted medical use, however if you recreate the same active ingredients in a lab and then put them into a pill, then they are useful. Large majority of patients trialling Sativex as a replacement for cannabis herb seem to be saying that the herb works far better. Why do these anti-cannabis peoples ALWAYS refuse to listen to anyone that actually smokes pot??
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Problem;
Look there's too many ppl self-medicating and growing Cannabis cause its easily done in a citizens' suburban setting (in the Government's mind).

Solution;
License a Pharmaceutical Company to develop and market a safe Delivery system incorporating Cannabis's active ingredient (tax and control appropriately under Govt. guidelines)

All others who try to curcumvent this method of use shall be THROWN IN JAIL!!!!

Result;
Self-medicating and home-growing Cannabis will gradually be erradicated , exception being those lazy Hippy types who only use as recreational and prolly deserve some time in jail anyway ....

PROBLEM SOLVED

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Watch out everyone for that Frazz guy. In his above post he sounds like a government official. Possibly julia gillard, I'm not sure, but he Definately knows how the government operates.
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