Outdoor nutrients, Ormus

[AussieToker]

Hi everyone, im a amateur grower from Vic and i need some advice on outdoor nutrients for soil. I'm interested in growing organic but can't seem to sort out the nutrients for veg and flowering. I read Fish emulsion, Kelp, Worm castings and Guano's seem to be the way to go. Is there any recommended products that anyone has had success with?

I have also heard about some stuff called ORMUS or ORMES (Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements). Ive read that it is some good shit for humans and plants, but don't know if it would be good for Cannabis. If anyone has some info on ormus and cannabis plants please let me know.

You can find more info on ORMUS here

 

www subtleenergies.com/ormus/cone.htm

 

www subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pictures.pdf

[Auntynorm]

G'day Aussie.

 

I'm also in Vic and I also grow outside. Firstly, you have a patch of dirt in mind for the evil deed, ok, get a good shovel and become very familiar with it as you will be with it a lot. Now what you want is organic material, manures, compost, lime, sulphate of potash, blood and bone, straw, lake or sea weed if you can find some, and begin putting the shovel to work. Dig all this in as deep as you can, maybe even dig a trench, about 300mm deep, and back fill with good stuff mixed with the local soil. This way you will have raised beds, this will promote healthy drainage, a very necessary thing for excellent root development. Once you have these ready then you can start with fish emulsion etc. Another good brew to spray on the plants and soil is Go-Go Juice, it's a pro-biotic, this will help raise the biological life in the soil which is also vital for healthy plants. Have well established seedlings ready (3-4 sets of leaves) by about Melbourne Cup time, whack 'em in and stand back. I don't worry too much about moon phases etc, I've never noticed much difference from growing over a 30 year plus period. If you start preparing the beds now, come Cup time the soil will be roaring with vitality and get the youngun's off to a flying start. If you get this part right you should see some astounding growth rates, 6 inches a week is easily attained. Have a plot with a an Eastern facing aspect with some Northerly aspects as well and you are away. You can buy a range of foliar sprays made by a company called Growth Technologies at Bunnings, for all stages of growth, from seedlings to harvest. Foliage Focus for growth and Rose Focus as soon as you see the first sign of flowers. I've been using these products for the last few years and I swear by them. I'm getting around 23-30% improved yields over my old methods. Just remember, Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. There are lots of terrific growers on the site that are more than happy to give great advice and help.

 

 

Actual growing of the plants is another kettle of fish altogether. First find a secluded place, preferably where no one goes, and don't tell a soul, I mean no one, at all, under any circumstances. It may mean you have to cart water during summer, but thats how it goes. No one said it was going to be easy. By this approach you have less chance of a/ getting done by the jacks, or b/ getting ripped off. I lost 2 x 7ft plants this last season and it's a rank feeling. I was probably being a bit greedy waiting the few extra days for some little extra development, but truth be known they should have been out of the ground. Another thing I do is prune the big plate sized leaves from all my plants. This allows more air and light into the plants and this means more heads. I've also found the prevelance of bugs nearly non existant, there's nowhere to hide. I had some trouble with snails and slugs last season but I turned the chooks loose on 'em and problem solved. The chooks aerate the top layers of the soil and supply some extra manure. Spray once a week with your prefered nutes, chuck a handful of blood and bone and lime around every now and then and hope for the right amounts of sun and rain. If I can be of any further help you can send me a personal message. :guitar:

[TheTreeBoundRat]

Hey Aussie welcome to Os mate.

 

+1 to Aunty Norms advise.

 

Yeah the soil composition is really important . Get as much organic matter in as possible and as deep as possible and whist there cut back any invading roots from anything else about. Decide on a your prefered npk ratio and mix and match what you want too make it up. You can now buy npk testers to see what your soil requires I use kateck super grow which is kinda like dynamic lifeter but has allot better npk ratio and is organinc.

 

Soil compostitions is where its at though.

 

Hope you grow a monster

 

TBR

[AussieToker]

Hi AuntyNorm,

Cheers heaps for all the advice your an absolute Legend. Hopefully I should be able to do everything correctly without over or under fertilising the soil. I wouldn't have a clue of how much of the ingredients that Ill need to chuck in but ill give it ago and maybe get myself a npk tester. How do you think these ingredients would go if i were to add them into a soil? And is there anything that should be changed or added into the soil recipe.

Kelp meal, Alfalfa Meal, Worm castings, Compost, Mycorrhizal fungi, Perlite, Lime, rock dust(basalt or Granite).

 

Thanks again 'AuntyNorm', and any advice is much appreciated.

[sargentscraps]

Its a tough time trying to figure what to put in your soil first time round, i know Subcool helped me alot. Dont worry about matching it perfectly, if you can great but otherwise just use it as a base recipe

 

http://hightimes.com/grow/subcool/5728

[Mattick]

Moon phase is the rising sap of course it creates better growth