Up in Smoke !

[BADHABITSOZ]

Well, from the headline..you might consider there is a slight Cheech & Chong motif so it kinda gives away my age. I have been smoking for over 40 years all forms, cones, numbers, dry pipe, pretty much however I could get it basically. As I am now 60 and wish to continue my only one "bad-habit", for some time to come yet (fingers crossed) I started thinking about changing to vaporizers to see if I could alleviate the cough. I , gave up smoking cigs over 25 or so years ago. Lately I have had a bad cough only when smoking, weather vapour or pipe or bong....I was hoping the vapouriser would be something pretty revolutionary but sadly no, and I wasn't impressed when using the vapouriser anyway, it seemed as if there was something missing, but anyway it didn't seem to get rid of the coughs so back to the bong. I would really like to hear from others with similar experiance. I grow my own and have had only one grow but I was impressed with my yeald and am going to try again, perhaps it's just that my smoke is "raw or rough" but as I said I been doing this for a long time now and obviously have had the "coughs" before but not constantly like this...Am I just getting old or what ? Thanks..would be interested to here from anyone attachment=66528:20110412_12.JPG] BadhabitsOZ

[Frazz]

hey BH , mate i reckon you should definitely give the bong away and stick with a dry pipe or joints, it will be less irritant on lungs/airways

but stop smoking for a coupla days first, then when you resume pipe only

i hear what your saying about vapourouiser just not the same stone .. kinda like kissing ya sister eh

 

[brick]

I have the same problem. Been smoking as long as you have and my lungs can't take anything but a dry pipe or joint. I still use tobacco (so that is going against me). Slowly cutting down the tobacco content in my joints seems to help a bit.

I find when I am playing sport (tennis) more regularly and working the lungs the cough seems to abate for a while.

 

Anyone who can come up with a coughless strain will be a millionair in no time.

 

I have an Iolite vape. Yes it is not the same. I use it as a topper upper.

Edited May 23, 2011 by brick50

[wietlover]

I have a digital volcano and an iolite vap.

i have been vaping since about 2004,although i still use my bong every day i vap a fair bit as well.Cause as stated its just not the same(dont know what its like to kiss my sister !!)!! I too have been smoking for 25+ years

Firstly the heat from the vap will still make you cough, i have just come back from the dam and vaped loads of weed about 1/2 way thru the vaping i will still start to cough as the heat and the sting from the weed hits. VAPES WILL NOT STOP YOU COUGHING!! It is mearly a healther way of ingesting cannabis.You are coughing cause your lungs and throat are getting irritated by the heat/weed

Also a common misconception is that it will make shit weed good... survey says bom bom

shit weed will still be shit weed in a vape!

Some people swear by them ,some dont like them at all, i dont mind them its all personal choice!!

If you have a constant cough thats not going away it might be time for a trip to your G.P and get a check up!as you know long term smoking aint good for our lungs!! Better to be safe than sorry bro!!

Maybe try an ice bong???

Good luck

cheers wiet

Edited May 23, 2011 by wietlover

[RecklessRecluse]

Hi Guys

 

My personal experience is that I am a 20 year habitual smoker. 17 of those years was with a dirty old bong mixed with tobacco, until my lungs just couldnt handle it anymore. I would cough every cone and afterwards too, and always felt like I had a lump of phlemgh down in my throat.

 

I decided to give the Vaporstar a go and loved the taste but it went thru a lot of lighters and was a bit hard to get vapor without burning the pot.

 

So then I bought a DaBuddah Vaporizer, and it was better but still a little hard to get a really good consistent vapor, and it chewed thru the weed very quickly.

 

So I scrimped and saved and bought a Volcano.

 

I now dont smoke cigarettes with my pot or at all for that matter. It took just 2 patches to give up a pouch a week habit. I have never used a bong since or smoked a cigarette again.

 

I found that the quick hit I was getting from a bong was mainly the tobacco and other chemicals so once I was getting the full vapors the Volcano provided I never went back. With the other vaporizers I could of been swayed back.

 

I agree that Vaporizing does still make you cough but this can be managed so that you only cough if you misjudge the temp or get a little greedy. At first I was trying to Vap it way too hot and have smoke-like Vapor, which in the manual it says will irritate your lungs, but I didnt read this till I was coughing my lungs up real bad and couldnt figure out why. Now I start my vaporizing down low and work up to the higher temps, you eventually get a knack of how strong your lungs can handle it. I am sure if you haven`t destroyed your lungs like I did then you can handle higher temps than me.

 

I used to smoke between 3/4 and 1 ounce a week mixed with a large pouch of tobacco. I now smoke between 1/4 and 1/2 an ounce a week with no tobacco. I dont go past 7temperature which means there is still goodness in the leftovers, so I give them to a friend who doesnt smoke much, so I could stretch it to go further.

 

I now dont have the ball of phlemgh in my throat and have found excercising a lot easier than in the past, so it was the best decision I have ever made.

I forgot to mention that I no longer stink. My partner always told me I smelt like pot which was true, I was always smoking and I had to smoke outside for this reason and because she doesnt smoke. I now am able to smoke inside, in another room of course, but I am inside and I haven`t been told I stink for years. This helps me feel comfortable if I have a bag and then have to go somewhere, I dont feel like I need to have another shower, as any smell is gone within a minute or 2 and i am good to go, and because I haven`t coughed my lungs up I dont have big bulging red eyes.

 

Thats my 2 cents worth from my perspective, hope it helps someone.

 

Reckless.

[Anakha]

Hi Guys

 

My personal experience is that I am a 20 year habitual smoker. 17 of those years was with a dirty old bong mixed with tobacco, until my lungs just couldnt handle it anymore. I would cough every cone and afterwards too, and always felt like I had a lump of phlemgh down in my throat.

 

I decided to give the Vaporstar a go and loved the taste but it went thru a lot of lighters and was a bit hard to get vapor without burning the pot.

 

So then I bought a DaBuddah Vaporizer, and it was better but still a little hard to get a really good consistent vapor, and it chewed thru the weed very quickly.

 

So I scrimped and saved and bought a Volcano.

 

I now dont smoke cigarettes with my pot or at all for that matter. It took just 2 patches to give up a pouch a week habit. I have never used a bong since or smoked a cigarette again.

 

I found that the quick hit I was getting from a bong was mainly the tobacco and other chemicals so once I was getting the full vapors the Volcano provided I never went back. With the other vaporizers I could of been swayed back.

 

I agree that Vaporizing does still make you cough but this can be managed so that you only cough if you misjudge the temp or get a little greedy. At first I was trying to Vap it way too hot and have smoke-like Vapor, which in the manual it says will irritate your lungs, but I didnt read this till I was coughing my lungs up real bad and couldnt figure out why. Now I start my vaporizing down low and work up to the higher temps, you eventually get a knack of how strong your lungs can handle it. I am sure if you haven`t destroyed your lungs like I did then you can handle higher temps than me.

 

I used to smoke between 3/4 and 1 ounce a week mixed with a large pouch of tobacco. I now smoke between 1/4 and 1/2 an ounce a week with no tobacco. I dont go past 7temperature which means there is still goodness in the leftovers, so I give them to a friend who doesnt smoke much, so I could stretch it to go further.

 

I now dont have the ball of phlemgh in my throat and have found excercising a lot easier than in the past, so it was the best decision I have ever made.

I forgot to mention that I no longer stink. My partner always told me I smelt like pot which was true, I was always smoking and I had to smoke outside for this reason and because she doesnt smoke. I now am able to smoke inside, in another room of course, but I am inside and I haven`t been told I stink for years. This helps me feel comfortable if I have a bag and then have to go somewhere, I dont feel like I need to have another shower, as any smell is gone within a minute or 2 and i am good to go, and because I haven`t coughed my lungs up I dont have big bulging red eyes.

 

Thats my 2 cents worth from my perspective, hope it helps someone.

 

Reckless.

 

 

Good post to read as i am in a similar situation as you were and cant handle the bong and tobacco as well. I have been going to get a vape for around 2 months in an attempt to be healthier and give up the cigs and had decided on the volcano but had to wait a lil to afford.....a largish expense on myself which i dont do!!! anyways last pay had saved the cash was going to order but did some reading before hand.....up until then everything i had read about the volcano put it head and shoulders above the rest (and it probably is) but the ONE thing i didnt like reading was the aluminium heating element they use in the volcano to keep the temp so spot on......nothing conclusive yet research wise but just dont like the thought of aluminium opposed to ceramic....i reckon just better to be safe than sorry.....So the job was find a vape that performs close to the volcano but with the ceramic heating element..........only one i came up with was the EXTREME Q........also do like the fact i can use a whip but also have the balloon option (although it takes 2-3 times longer to fill a balloon than the volcano).....Ordered and paid for 1 today.....$300 bucks and should be here by the end of the week.....I know its not gonna be the same as a bong but agree that has to do with tobacco etc as you said.. Just hope it helps to kick the cigs as they are nails in da coffin......

[Mighty_J]

*i have been vaping since about 2004,although i still use my bong every day i vap a fair bit as well

VAPES WILL NOT STOP YOU COUGHING!! It is mearly a healther way of ingesting cannabis.You are coughing cause your lungs and throat are getting irritated by the heat/weed

*Also a common misconception is that it will make shit weed good... survey says bom bom

shit weed will still be shit weed in a vape!

*If you have a constant cough thats not going away it might be time for a trip to your G.P and get a check up!as you know long term smoking aint good for our lungs!!

 

Don't mean to offend but you've said there you're still smoking every day, so vapes making/not making you cough isn't really something you have a complete perspective on, with all due respect.

I have stopped smoking completely.

When I first started to vape I did cough, over a few weeks I coughed a fair bit - I was coughing up all the crap that was in my lungs...which I understand vaping assists with.

Though beyond that stage, I have not coughed in ages. At all.

My lung capacity is a bit better, and breathing is much better in general.

 

One point we agree on, is that it does not make shit weed = good weed. Shit weed is shit weed.

In fact, you notice it more in a vape, like if something you've picked up hasn't been flushed...it's feral...

 

Also agreed on your point towards the OP -

The best thing you can do for now is talk to a doctor I'd say, and worry about consumption method as a secondary thing.

Of course, if it's an open discussion they'll likely tell you combustion and inhalation of any substance is not well liked by our lungs...that and, if you're worried about an ongoing problem - put your mind at ease or at very least inform yourself by having a scan or something of the kind.

[The Claw]

This explains whats missing when you use a vap.

The dude in the vid looks like he is our age. I have Da Buddha which works great, similar to using a bong. Just pac & go, I pac large and crank it up. Rips my head off, the cough is different from the bong, more of a irritating tickle cough. Just stick with it. Some Vapes can be adapted to produce oil, if the vapor can settle on glass it will turn to pure oil just scrape off and eat.

[RecklessRecluse]

Good post to read as i am in a similar situation as you were and cant handle the bong and tobacco as well. I have been going to get a vape for around 2 months in an attempt to be healthier and give up the cigs and had decided on the volcano but had to wait a lil to afford.....a largish expense on myself which i dont do!!! anyways last pay had saved the cash was going to order but did some reading before hand.....up until then everything i had read about the volcano put it head and shoulders above the rest (and it probably is) but the ONE thing i didnt like reading was the aluminium heating element they use in the volcano to keep the temp so spot on......nothing conclusive yet research wise but just dont like the thought of aluminium opposed to ceramic....i reckon just better to be safe than sorry.....So the job was find a vape that performs close to the volcano but with the ceramic heating element..........only one i came up with was the EXTREME Q........also do like the fact i can use a whip but also have the balloon option (although it takes 2-3 times longer to fill a balloon than the volcano).....Ordered and paid for 1 today.....$300 bucks and should be here by the end of the week.....I know its not gonna be the same as a bong but agree that has to do with tobacco etc as you said.. Just hope it helps to kick the cigs as they are nails in da coffin......

 

Awesome, I am glad you made the move to Vaping. I hope it also helps you kick the ciggies. I am not sure about ceramic vs aluminium but what ever works best for you is the best choice for you.

 

Let us know how you go with the Extreme Q

[CactusGumnut]

Hey man I am not of your age but I do have asthma. I bought a vaporizer to reduce damage to my lungs as well. I find that the vaporizer can make me cough as well but i do believe that it is better for the lungs than smoking. Weed dries up mucus in your lungs so it makes you need to cough, so it's not always a bad thing but i agree that something is missing. Vaping kief as still awesome though.

[Frazz]

I now am able to smoke inside, in another room of course, but I am inside and I haven`t been told I stink for years. This helps me feel comfortable if I have a bag and then have to go somewhere, I dont feel like I need to have another shower, as any smell is gone within a minute or 2 and i am good to go

 

lmao .. this must be the best ever recommendation for a volcano ... it would be terrible to be told you stink everytime you got stoned .. wonder you havent got a complex about it, poor fella

 

well glad you dont stink anymore