Little Black Flies.

[Auntynorm]

G'day Troops.

 

For those of us unfortunate enough to have this problem your favourite Aunty has pulled on its footy boots and declared war on these little bastards. When I first saw them there was only a few, then overnight, shit, mongrels everywhere. So Norm being Norm attack is the best form of defence. With limited resources, read funds, I took to 'em with what was at hand, namely fly spray and mozzie coils. I also had some fly strips from summer left, so they also got a gurnsey. One of my Pot of Gold suffered a bit of burn from the spray, but nothing serious. It stopped the pricks cold. A couple of days later there were a couple around so I lit another mozzie coil and today no sign of any. Now before you good people go ballistic, please read on. Both the poisons, the active ingredient is Pyrethrum, a natural organic brew made from daisies. Also I gave up on the spray after it slightly burnt the plant even after a good wash with rain water. I much prefer to not use anything at all, a few of you watched my summer grow and saw what I did there, but needs must. To finish, this seems to be a way to get rid of the litte turds, without too much toxicity intoduced into your grow, at very little cost. Win, Win.

 

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[Wrangler556]

G'day Troops.

 

For those of us unfortunate enough to have this problem your favourite Aunty has pulled on its footy boots and declared war on these little bastards. When I first saw them there was only a few, then overnight, shit, mongrels everywhere. So Norm being Norm attack is the best form of defence. With limited resources, read funds, I took to 'em with what was at hand, namely fly spray and mozzie coils. I also had some fly strips from summer left, so they also got a gurnsey. One of my Pot of Gold suffered a bit of burn from the spray, but nothing serious. It stopped the pricks cold. A couple of days later there were a couple around so I lit another mozzie coil and today no sign of any. Now before you good people go ballistic, please read on. Both the poisons, the active ingredient is Pyrethrum, a natural organic brew made from daisies. Also I gave up on the spray after it slightly burnt the plant even after a good wash with rain water. I much prefer to not use anything at all, a few of you watched my summer grow and saw what I did there, but needs must. To finish, this seems to be a way to get rid of the litte turds, without too much toxicity intoduced into your grow, at very little cost. Win, Win.

 

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You may have won the battle norm, but you haven't won the War yet

 

 

Once they are around, they like to stick around. They'll be back, and quite often with a vengence... each female can lay upwards of 200 eggs

[ConvexConepiece]

Lesson learned: don't bring outdoor garden soil into your 'sterile' indoor garden

 

As wrangler says, they WILL be back - and likely during flower so you can't spray that stuff on em.

 

I keep pointing people to the white oil recipe (by radic I believe) yet not many people seem to give it a shot despite how simple and effective it is with household items. Catch heaps the little buggers, squash and add to the mix for an even better brew.

 

Pests don't usually like being sprayed with their dead comrades. Take ant's for example, squash one and the smell will deter all other ants away from the carcass.

 

Ya can't really overspray the stuff on the plants, and it doesn't seem to harm them in any way. I'd even use this during flowering if the need arised.

 

Oil + detergent + water + dead bugs = a mean spray.

[Auntynorm]

G'day Troops.

 

G'day Wrangler.

 

The bastards will probably return, in force, so I'll wait and see if I can ambush the pricks. They die fairly easy, the thing they have going for them is numbers. Believe me I'm keeping a good eye on my babies.

 

 

G'day CC.

 

The only local soil I used was from where I had my outdoor last season, and that must have been enough. I will get the makings for the white oil on Friday. What sort of oil should I use? Olive or something similar? I'll check gardening Australia they are pretty handy.

 

 

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Edited May 16, 2011 by Auntynorm

[smokinjoe]

If those little black flies are fungus gnats I'd be inclined to drench the soil as that's where the little mongrel bastards will be coming from. Alternatively put some fine washed sand about 2" deep over the soil to kill the fuckers dead. Bastards will be munching on the routes.

[havik_racing]

If those little black flies are fungus gnats I'd be inclined to drench the soil as that's where the little mongrel bastards will be coming from. Alternatively put some fine washed sand about 2" deep over the soil to kill the fuckers dead. Bastards will be munching on the routes.

 

 

I'm in the same boat Auntynorm , everytime i open my cupboard door i get bombarded with the buggers, might have to try your trick with the spray and coils, sand trick sounds like the go?, do you have heeeeaps of there larvae crawling around in the soil?

[Auntynorm]

G'day Havik.

 

Don't bother with the spray as it can burn your crop, just use the coils at the rate of 1 every 2 days for 8 days and that will fuck 'em. They don't get time to go from larvae to breeding adult, so it breaks the cycle, and that's the end of that. It won't kill the larvae but kills the young adults. The floor in my tent looked like black dandruff. My mate down the highway had the little pricks, and I told him about coils, no more gnats. Others here have used them, and obtained good results as well. But our mates on the flat earth deride the idea, but then don't try it themselves, they prefer to pay an arm and leg for some evil, probably injurous, chemical, with a many week with holding period, whereas coils are an organic poison that has no with holding period, though I would tend to err on the side of caution, and leave things for a week or so, just to be sure. An once of prevention is better than a pound of cure. Not to mention they are dirt cheap. :guitar:

[The Hash Nibbler]

Heya guys , I have to agree with the guys above white oil mix is better for ya plants than pyrethium based insecticides.

I use Mite rid which is basically Neem oil, white oil and a liminoid combined. It will destry gnats when used as foliar spray and drench in combination.

DO NOT USE FLYSPRAY!!!!!! WHILE THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT MAY BE PYRETHIUM, IT IS NOT SAFE JUST BECAUSE IT IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING SUBSTANCE.

PLUS THERE ARE OTHER INGREDIENTS IN IT THAT WILL HARM YOUR PLANTS AND YOU.

Pyrethum should be handled the same way as any other insecticide, with extreme caution.

Mozzie coils are labelled FOR OUTDOOR USE ONLY and while this may be fine out back in a shed, I dont think it should be used in peoples grows in their houses where they eat , sleep and live.

Just because something says it's natural doesnt mean it cant mean it has no toxicity or residual effects.

Take 1080 poison as an example naturally occurring in native plants in Australia, making it natural occurring but it is deadly to all un- indiginous mammals.

If you wanna say pyrethum is harmless I would be doing a lot more homework before touting this shit as gospel, we have newbs on this site that will believe this shit and spray and light up this crap in their grow rooms, thinking you know what your talking about. Thats stupid.

 

I am always open to new ideas based on fact, but this needs to be stomped out now before someone ends up seriously ill and as someone who has worked selling ag chemicals of which pesticides were a major componant and which I had to sit through hours and hours of chemical based training for, I'd say I got a fair idea what I'm talking about.

If I didn't wouldn't say shit.

Maybe if ya mozzie coils and flyspray are so safe Norm ya wouldn't mind eating a coil for us and wash it down with a big spray of harmless pyrethum flyspray......

See ya in hospital. Peace. Gh "the mis-information police" 72.

[nitram]

hi all bugged by lilttle black flying insects. There is a cure abd it lies in your practices you yourself engage in.

 

1) maintaine isolation (don't contaminate your grow space)

2) most importantly - improve your water/feed ptactice minimalizing damp medium.

 

It's that simple. A reasonable & safe way of managing 'blk fly' infestations is using "stick fly traps" in your GR.

Nitty.