make the money

[pipeman]

I just got a copy of Kog's book Marijuana - A Growers Lot. On the inside cover its got written:

 

sow the seed

grow the weed

make the money

fuck the system

 

so what does this actually mean? I mean you can't make money if pot is legalised, so what system does Kog want to fuck? In his acknowledgements Kog actually thanks the NSW Police Force. . I guess he really is happy that MJ is illegal, otherwise how would he make his money? seems to me Kog supports the system and profits from it, and the more people that adopt this approach, the less chance we have of of getting any real drug law reform IMO.

[white_cluster]

I dont think most commercial growers are smart enough to have any point of view about anything. As long as they can sit on there arse and harvest tons of seedy hermy pot and make enough to gamble it away all week they are happy and thats about all there is too it.

 

In some sense all black markets really do fuck the system, they fuck the economy. Good or bad thing, I guess its bad cos I get less dole, but it would be good if people can all make a bit of money and save that shit and keep it out of the hands of the super-rich for good.

 

But all commercial growers I met are heavy gamblers who waste money like crazy, steal there money from the poor mostly, take kids whole dole to buy a fucking 5th shitty car. Lazy fucks who sit on there arse watching TV all day or at the pub/tab. one good thing about drug sellers is they are the easiest cunts in the world to rip off, pay cash for everything and like to show off the fact they got money. and keep alot of there money from the knowledge of wife and kids. Of course its not a crime to grow pot, but i think alot of commercial growers are criminals.

[Luke Skywalker]

Of course its not a crime to grow pot, but i think alot of commercial growers are criminals.

 

Well said.

 

Kogs not one of us, he's something else entirely.. Cannabis just happens to be his way of making money.

[pipeman]

yeah no shit. I almost finished reading the book now. He actually says that personal hydro growers have ruined the pot market in Australia

 

interesting read though. I didn't realise that commercial pot growers could be so stupid and so inept at growing and still get away with it and make money

[Ferre]

Are you a criminal if you're a farmer? Growing weed should be legal overall, just as any other plant grown for human consumption, like lettuce or tomatos. And like any other of those plants why shouldn't it be grown for commercial reasons?

At present times a lot of the commercial growers on this planet are "criminals", but it's only the war on drugs making them criminals. If pot was legal we probebly wouldn't even question this. Not everybody wants to grow or has the time/space, also not in a world where pot is legal, there always be "trade", like with any other consumers product on this earth. Big deal.

[pipeman]

yeah true tboat, I got nothing against Kog, if he wants to take the risk and grow mj for profit good luck to him. I just don't think thats advancing the legalisation cause, because it makes the issue about drug dealing and making black market money rather than people's personal choice to smoke the weed.

 

but I suppose if it wasn't for commercial growers like Kog very few of us would be here right now growing our own, as we would never have got the chance to try it.

[Guest Urbanhog]

I argee with t-boat here, and I really can't say a bad thing about Kog, as he kindly send me a autographed book from him, and it was very nice and kind of him. No matter what Kog said in the book, I still found the book very entertaining in some cases.

[Tom]

I didn't realise that commercial pot growers could be so stupid and so inept at growing and still get away with it and make money

Many of their customers will pay just as much for crap pot as they would for good gear, any loser can grow sub-standard pot and sell it to other losers that are too lazy to grow their own.

[Ferre]

I didn't realise that commercial pot growers could be so stupid and so inept at growing and still get away with it and make money

Many of their customers will pay just as much for crap pot as they would for good gear, any loser can grow sub-standard pot and sell it to other losers that are too lazy to grow their own.

Yeah that's only the case in a situation where there's not much competition and everything has to be done in the dark. In an open, legal invironment commercial growers can grow very good quality. Where do you think lots of the Dutch coffeeshops get their weed? Some of that stuff knocks lots of people out. In an open sociaty like here you get crappy money for crappy weed. It's just noth worth growing minor quality skunk over here for commercial growers.

 

I tell ya, the only thing making it criminal with all the negative aspects of it, uncluding the high prices,...is the law!

[white_cluster]

At present times a lot of the commercial growers on this planet are "criminals", but it's only the war on drugs making them criminals. If pot was legal we probably wouldn't even question this

 

I doubt alot of these people would grow marijuana if it was legal though T-boat. They would have to reach a certain level of quality.

 

Selling bad pot is definately a crime.

 

my favourite quote from KOGs book is this: " A dope crop where males havent been ripped out early enough and hence those female heads still have some seed in them will mature about a month earlier than one of pure sinsemilla. Now this is still a saleable product. And if you have pounds ready to sell before easter then you will still be in the money. Plus you'll have heaps of seed for a winter crop."

 

hmmmm, yeah OK.

 

Yeah that's only the case in a situation where there's not much competition and everything has to be done in the dark. In an open, legal invironment commercial growers can grow very good quality. Where do you think lots of the Dutch coffeeshops get their weed? Some of that stuff knocks lots of people out. In an open sociaty like here you get crappy money for crappy weed. It's just noth worth growing minor quality skunk over here for commercial growers.

 

But these guys are mostly talented farmers Tboat, totally different people to the people who grow cannabis in Australia. I know that you've got some ex-aussie commercial growers there (Shantibaba and Neville) but mainly the people who grow the weed over there will probably be chosen for there knowledge and the fact they are good at growing weed.

 

In Australaia to make top dollar takes only balls, no talent required. The less effort you put into growing the more you can grow. The scene is getting a bit better. I had two friends who harvested almost 100pound 2 years ago of the shittiest mouldy heads that we're almost a month premature, and although they had many contacts, they couldnt sell the weed and threw most of it out next spring.

 

Basically Tboat, was Al Capone a criminal??? of course he fuckin was. Its a cut-throat blackmarket over here, I'd say a few throats would definately be cut too. When legalisation comes I'd say alot of dope growers will need to find new illegal occupations as growing pot will require too much effort.