Nimbin Trial

[sargentscraps]

Have a read and tell me what you think, know etc...do you think it is legitimate?

 

This is copied from a thread on the Nimbin Hemp Embassy Forum.

 

 

"The first steps in the move towards the regulation, taxation and control of Cannabis to be trialed in the Nimbin Valley..

 

The Nimbin Valley Cannabis Trial will be for a 6 month period (11.11.2010 till 11.5.2011)

 

- 6 cannabis retail outlets in the "cafe" mode.

- Designated smoking areas in each cafe.

- Single 'dose' pre rolled 'joints' for sale for smoking in cafe ONLY.

- Sale of medical grade cannabis; limit 15 gms; using credit card/debit card through eftpos with G.S.T paid.

- Creation of Outdoor Organic Cannabis Growing Co Operatives with quality controls.

-The creation of a "POLICE BOOK" system similar to the car business: A registrar for buyers and suppliers, name/ address/ drivers license / medicare cards as proof of ID. To be available for inspection at each cafe.

 

Coffeeshop rules include:

 

No admittance unless 18 years or older. No sale or use of hard drugs.

Availability of heath information on cannabis use, harm reduction and cessation. Facility for summary closure for breach of fair trading regulations.

 

Be in Nimbin at 4.20 PM on the 11th of November 2010, at which time we will write your name and address etc into the "POLICE BOOK".

 

Then, your eftpos card will be charged $150.00 AU + GST total $165.00

 

the model we will be implementing is not specifically a medical cannabis one, the object during of trial is to create a system of total transparency that is easy to police and tax....

See this comment from Max Stone from the Nimbin Hemp Embassy

 

Now that you have had some time to digest the information above, I would like to add some background.

 

I was informing a senior member of the local police of the latest developments in global cannabis law reform, [one of my tasks here in the Embassy is police liason]and I was talking about Prop 19 and what impact that was going to make on Australian Cannabis Law Reform.

 

I asked the policeman, if it was up to him/her, what would they suggest be the way forward.

 

They said.

 

- 6 cannabis retail outlets in the "cafe" mode.

- Designated smoking areas in each cafe.

- Single 'dose' pre rolled 'joints' for sale for smoking in cafe ONLY.

- Sale of medical grade cannabis; limit 15 gms; using credit card/debit card through eftpos with G.S.T paid.

- Creation of Outdoor Organic Cannabis Growing Co Operatives with quality controls who pay GST at point of sale.

-The creation of a "POLICE BOOK" system similar to the car business..........

 

I was not surprised to hear such a well thought out reply from the officer in question, they have spent plenty of time in the streets of Nimbin working and thinking of the best way to break the deadlock.

 

As I wrote down the 6 things, I was most impressed by how the taxation aspects were covered and how easy it would be for the police to police the designated areas- to keep track of who is buying and who is rowing and how easy it will then be to identify and arrest those who choose to 'deal' out side the designated area's.

 

I would further add that there is significance to the dates of the six month trial, it starts on Armistice Day and ends after MardiGrass 2011."

[The Hash Nibbler]

Hope i can find a cheap Virgin flight, because if it is true and gonna happen I will come over and see it in action. Top Stuff, thanks Sarge =) The increase in tourism dollars will make Nimbin a healthy profit. Taxation is the way to go too, all legit-no bullshit .

Now......if we can just get some forward thinkers in WA I might be able to open my dream.............a coffeeshop/med Dispensary. Gh72

[mungu226]

I think this is really great. Thanks Sarge. I am going to check out the hemp embassy website now!.

[Frazz]

This is copied from a thread on the Nimbin Hemp Embassy Forum.

give us a link ... found it! here it is http://www.hempembassy.net/forums/Cannabis-and-the-Law/The-first-steps-in-the-move-towards-the-regulation%2C-taxation-and-control-of-Cannabis-in-Australia./9,1328,0,0,0,0,0

 

Have a read and tell me what you think, know etc...do you think it is legitimate?

this is a PROPOSAL/ MODEL

"Over the next weeks, this model is to be presented (in person) to Richmond Area Command in Lismore and Regional Police H.Q. in Port MacQuarie and to the Minister for Police - The Hon. Michael Daley MP."

so its not even been canvassed with the authorities?

can anyone seriously believe the Keanearly Govt. on the brink of annihilation, would even consider this proposal?

 

Be in Nimbin at 4.20 PM on the 11th of November 2010, at which time we will write your name and address etc into the "POLICE BOOK".

this reminds me of a Simpson's episode where the police sent everyone in town who had an outstanding arrest warrant a winner's letter for a new boat

 

Edited October 11, 2010 by Frazz

[Naycha]

If anything there has been an increase of policing in Nimbin

 

Police and pot smokers disagree!

16th September 2010

It's heavy-handed, driving tourists away and doesn’t target hard drugs, violence or alcohol-related crime – that’s the verdict on the latest policing tactics in Nimbin from the Hemp Embassy and the Nimbin Justice Action Group.

 

Last Saturday around 200 people gathered outside the Nimbin cop shop for a ‘Nimbin is not in Afghanistan’ protest against the latest increase in police activity in the town.

 

Business owners talked about very unfriendly police interactions and said their current financial difficulties were largely attributable to the overbearing policing.

 

“Why have we got hordes of cops wearing bullet proof vests and taser guns patrolling a small country town in rural NSW? It’s ludicrous! This is NSW, not Afghanistan,†Jim Moylan from the Nimbin Justice Action Group said. Richmond Local Area Command Superintendent Bruce Lyons said sniffer dogs were used all over the region in Alstonville, Lismore, Ballina, and Casino.

 

“I believe the police at Nimbin enjoy the support of the broader community. I believe there’s a silent majority in Nimbin who find it difficult to speak out because there has been a vocal minority in Nimbin for many years,†he said. “It is a difficult challenge policing Nimbin and I do not believe they are being heavy handed. It is obvious to everybody that there continues to be blatant drug dealing in Nimbin and we have a responsibility to the community to enforce the laws relating to the possession and distribution of drugs.â€

 

Protestors presented a letter calling on the Richmond Local Area Command to review its level of policing in the village and its effectiveness as well as asking for a trial of regulated sales of cannabis in the village to curb dealing.

 

“Common sense says it’s time to trial a legal market place for cannabis in Nimbin. A marketplace, or cafes like in Amsterdam perhaps,†Hemp Embassy president Michael Balderstone said. “The huge amount of money being thrown away in this eternal, ongoing policing of Nimbin is making little difference to the cannabis trade. However, it does mean many locals are in jail, many local youth have criminal records for life, and police are regularly unavailable for important moments when they are truly needed to protect the safety of the village.â€

 

Superintendent Lyons said any trials were a matter for the NSW Government.

 

“I think one of the positives from the increased police presence at Nimbin is there has been a significant decrease in violent crime that used to occur there,†he said. “In the enforcement of cannabis laws, particularly with those people who possess small quantities, police enforce with a balanced approach. Quite often cannabis cautions are issued and people are also given notices to attend court without having to be marched to the police station to have the matter processed.â€

 

from the Northern rivers echo

[wietlover]

Almost thought it was the 1st of april as i read this !!

Like naycha said , the jacks have gotten worse down in nimbin !I steer clear these days and only visit 3-4 times a year, Random drug testing in Uki, the coppers like to sit outside the school with their radar gun so watch out!!!!

Whenever i'm missing Amsterdam i take a trip to nimbin!! Its as close as you can get!!

Nimbindam!! Not gonna happen unfotunatley!!

@ FRAZZ i too, love that ep of the simpsons!!

@ GH72 i think it's all our dream!!

Legalise it, and i will advertise it!!!

wiet

[Rocker]

I would only want to pay by cash. I repeat, cash.

Credit cards and eftpos are very nice for tracking purposes.

[Innocent criminal]

this reminds me of a Simpson's episode where the police sent everyone in town who had an outstanding arrest warrant a winner's letter for a new boat

yeah I thought that, funny as.

 

I actually hope this one never happens, a cop came up with it and call me paranoid but I don't think he was thinking of how to make things easier for us stoners when he did.

Let's read between the lines for a minute...

The Nimbin Valley Cannabis Trial will be for a 6 month period (11.11.2010 till 11.5.2011)

 

- 6 cannabis retail outlets in the "cafe" mode. = Easy to patrol/monitor.

- Designated smoking areas in each cafe. =Segregated, no picking the stoners out of a crowd.

- Single 'dose' pre rolled 'joints' for sale for smoking in cafe ONLY. = Who decides what a single dose joint entails? I see no guarantee of a decent price?

- Sale of medical grade cannabis; limit 15 gms; using credit card/debit card through eftpos with G.S.T paid. = Here is where it starts to look like a ploy, this gives them the on paper proof they need of purchases/sales.

- Creation of Outdoor Organic Cannabis Growing Co Operatives with quality controls. =Govt supervised grows, then 6 months later no grows.

-The creation of a "POLICE BOOK" system similar to the car business: A registrar for buyers and suppliers, name/ address/ drivers license / medicare cards as proof of ID. To be available for inspection at each cafe. = DANGER WIL ROBINSON DANGER!!!! Would you put your name on this list when at the end of 6 months they are likely to raid everyone on it?? Not I

 

Sorry Nimbin Hemp Embassy but I think you may have been blinded by your zeal, or possibly are simply too trusting of said officers motives, either way please let this one die a quiet death

Edited October 11, 2010 by TheHeadCing

[Radic]

irey frazzz

i hear yah bro

this is a PROPOSAL/ MODEL

"Over the next weeks, this model is to be presented (in person) to Richmond Area Command in Lismore and Regional Police H.Q. in Port MacQuarie and to the Minister for Police - The Hon. Michael Daley MP."

so its not even been canvassed with the authorities?

can anyone seriously believe the Keanearly Govt. on the brink of annihilation, would even consider this proposal?

yes true

it was the local nimbin cops who first brought it up

its the cops idea

ring my bell

the next ting that really erkz i is the timing

Armistice Day and ends after MardiGrass 2011.

nimbin can be really quiet just after MardiGrass

now, ,.just say,.,. it does happen ,..,.and it is a successful trial

well we all gotta love dat

seen

 

but,.,.......... what happens if the trial should fail????????????????????????????????

this part really concerns i

cause i do not see any security or safety for anyone involved

i do not see any amity policy for the participants after the trial

or any privacy statement

till i do

imho

very sus

 

 

guidance

[tolly]

The hemp embassy tried this on a smaller scale a couple of years ago in their own cafe/smokers bar next door and the pigs raided the place big time. What the local jacks want and what actually happens when coppers from other commands come in for the big crackdowns a few times a year are two different things. Yeah the street dealing is a pretty ugly scene and many tourists find it quite intimidating but it aint going anywhere. Personally I never buy from young guys who approach me while in nimbin. Alot of these guys are dealing to support a heroin or ice habit and those two drugs are making nimbin ugly and violent. Start up a conversation with a friendly old hippy and ask him if he would mind selling you a few buds from his personal stash. Thats my way of not contributing to the street scene....