Sativex

[snooch]

http://www.fiercebiotech.com/forward/emailref/84299

 

Was interested to read Sativex has finally got the green light in Britain. Not sure where I stand on this one. Way I'm seeing it, big pharma = big money; prohibition = big money. It's almost like they are legalising without having to legalise. Cake and eating it too kinda situation.

 

But then there's a part of me that thinks thank fk some people in Britain at least will be able to access some relief derived from the great plant, even if big pharma is involved.

[Radic]

buy shares in GW

they will only go up from now on

 

i hear you snooch

the money market, so cold and ruthless with no morrals is totally out of control

the way to rein it in is by supporting ecologicly sustainable buisnesses

eg 1loaf of bread made from chemically grown wheat cost 7kg of top soil

1loaf of bread made from organic wheat produces 7kg of top soil

the organic loaf actuly heals the earth as its being produced

this is green investment

the more money invested the more top soil is produced

 

GW say they are strictly organic,

make co2 extract of the whole plant,

breed ailment specific strains,

 

if this is true????????????

then GW is leading the way for sustainable medicine

is it true???????????

i dont know

that info is just straight from their own adds

 

sus

 

i hear you

 

but that is the way all bussniess must go

if GW is lieing

it wont be long before the real deal gets out there to put GW in their place

 

so far

from what i have read about GW

if its true

then i gotta love and support every utterance

 

guidance

[Innocent criminal]

Recently read it will cost patients 11 pounds (AU$16.30) per day for a sativex prescription, would be cheaper to buy off the illegal criminals than these legal ones.

[Reverend]

Shares are 123.00

[Vortex]

Thanks snooch for identifying the enemy.

 

Savitex is the brainchild of the Bayer subsidiary that exported AIDS infected medicine to Asia and Europe; AFTER they were forced to recall it in the US.

 

They have Savitex manufacturing and distribution set up in Spain and Japan, are marketing under a blanket cure for 'spacticity' and 'pain'. [ notably that related to AIDS] This sets them up nicely to patent the use of cannabinoids in the relief of these ills.

 

Something like the recent move by the US Government to take out a patent on cannabinoids for the treatment of antioxidants and neuroprotectants, a friend told me about.

 

The governments and suits are well aware of the benefits and profits to be made in the medical use of cannabis. Quite natural that they should want to posess it. , Vortex

[snooch]

The governments and suits are well aware of the benefits and profits to be made in the medical use of cannabis.

 

 

And isn't it strange how no one notices (or cares??) when they class cannabis as a dangerous drug "with no medical benefits", and use this as one of their reasons for making it illegal, and yet here they are allowing big pharma to produce medicine derived from it????

Edited June 26, 2010 by snooch

[Vortex]

Yes hypocrites snooch.

 

But a good way to keep our hands off cannabis while they corner the market and get a suitable tax regime in place.

 

The people who should care, long ago shouted down cannabis idealists in thier desire to be part of the 'cannabis consortium.' Thier focus on medical marijuana, kind of left out all the other things we could do, like build houses, alternative fuels and high energy food substitutes for the poor.

 

By promising the govt tax dollars, they let the government in the door. Made it harder in the future for people to grow cannabis, because it will be so highly regulated and supervised.

 

Mr Lee can stick his tax and 5' x5' grow space where it fits, i want to grow freely and without constraint, use my cannabis for whatever i want to do; not stand in line at a government run/ corporate financed dispensary. Vortex

[snooch]

Sativex now approved for Spain. France, Germany and Italy next on their list.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE66R08U20100728

 

Spain approves GW, Almirall cannabis drug for MS

 

LONDON, July 28 (Reuters) - GW Pharmaceuticals Plc's (GWP.L) cannabis-derived medicine Sativex has been approved in its second European market, Spain, as an add-on therapy for treating spasticity in patients with multiple sclerosis (MS).

 

The news, which follows a green light last month in Britain, is a boost for British-based GW and its Spanish partner Almirall (ALM.MC).

 

Following the regulatory clearance, Sativex is expected to get pricing and reimbursement approval from the Spanish Ministry of Health in the fourth quarter of 2010.

 

GW said on Wednesday it had also filed to get the medicine approved under the Europe Union's mutual recognition procedure in other selected markets, including France, Germany and Italy.

 

Also, I'm not 100 percent sure what all this means, but it seems Bayer has only just recently got its grubby hands involved in Sativex.

 

Cannabis Science Reports Important Validation for Medical Cannabis as Bayer Pays '$15 Million Milestone Payment' for GW Pharmaceuticals' Sativex® for MS, as the UK Government Approves "First Prescription Cannabis Medicine"

 

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo., June 28, 2010 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Cannabis Science, Inc. (OTCBB:CBIS - News), a pioneering U.S. biotech company developing pharmaceutical cannabis products, reports an important milestone for the continued validation of medical cannabis, as UK-based GW Pharmaceuticals (http://gwpharm.com/) receives $15 million milestone payment from Bayer. This payment to GW is based on the UK Government's approval of the "First Prescription Cannabis Medicine", GW Pharmaceuticals Sativex®, an "Oromucosal Spray" tincture for the treatment of spasticity due to Multiple Sclerosis (MS). Analysts at Piper Jaffray forecast that peak sales could reach $180 million in Europe and Canada combined. Presently, GW has a market capitalization of over $260 million.

 

Richard Cowan, Cannabis Science CFO noted, "Bayer's $15 million 'milestone payment' to GW clearly puts the world on notice that pharmaceutical cannabis is now 'mainstream'. Previously, the US FDA granted GW a Phase III IND for Sativex, and a Phase IIb/III trial for cancer pain is currently ongoing. GW has also received an 18 million dollar licensing fee from Otsuka for the US rights, and they also received millions more from licensing fees from Almiral of Spain for the European rights outside of the UK.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cannabis-Sci...ml?x=0&.v=1

 

Does this mean that GW produces and Bayer distributes?

All in all, it seems there's a hell of a lot of money to be made by essentially cornering a market through stealth and distortions. Just wouldn't be the same if we could all grow our own medicine, now, would it??

[nicoledc109]

http://www.fiercebiotech.com/forward/emailref/84299

 

Was interested to read Sativex has finally got the green light in Britain. Not sure where I stand on this one. Way I'm seeing it, big pharma = big money; prohibition = big money. It's almost like they are legalising without having to legalise. Cake and eating it too kinda situation.

 

But then there's a part of me that thinks thank fk some people in Britain at least will be able to access some relief derived from the great plant, even if big pharma is involved.

Thanks for sharing.

[merl1n]

And isn't it strange how no one notices (or cares??) when they class cannabis as a dangerous drug "with no medical benefits", and use this as one of their reasons for making it illegal, and yet here they are allowing big pharma to produce medicine derived from it????

 

This arguement is mute as it already exists with opium. It is illegal to possess or grow opium poppies as this is the source of heroin. But it is also the source of opiates such as codiene in pain killers and pethidine and morphine for chronic pain. Drug companies have fields of poppies to harvest opium already in Tasmania

 

"Tasmania is the world’s largest producer of opium alkaloids for the pharmaceutical market. The area sown to poppies is close to 20,000 ha, and the industry is one of the larger employers in the State

"http://regional.org.au/au/asa/2001/plenary/1/fist.htm.,

 

It is highly secured and highly regulated but the presidence has already been set. So doing this with cannabis would not be hard as the pharma companies refine it and "make it pure" and this makes it more socially acceptable as a medication and not the "Evil" drug it is presently portrayed to be.

 

Merl1n

[snooch]

It is highly secured and highly regulated but the presidence has already been set. So doing this with cannabis would not be hard as the pharma companies refine it and "make it pure" and this makes it more socially acceptable as a medication and not the "Evil" drug it is presently portrayed to be.

 

Merl1n

 

Yep, fair call. I had heard that the DEA has some sort of involvement in the Tassie opium industry, but can't find anything on it, so it may well be an urban myth.

 

I'm not sure if refining cannabis into a pharma product does make it more socially acceptable, because it's marketed under brand names like Sativex and Marinol etc.

 

But thanks, I get your point.